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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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payton black

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bespoke radio

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for the

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how you doing how you doing today is

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224 days into the new year only 142 days

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we're live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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changer network and kgra the planets

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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tonight on this program

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very special guest it is host to host

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with race hobbs

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the big man himself tomorrow night

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dr christopher macklin joins us for the

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we're going to be talking about the big

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e.t conspiracy

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is it positive is it negative is it a

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both thursday night is another fader

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night with open lines

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all night long all right

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giving you guys the update man oh man we

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it's going to be a great show tonight

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i when race is here

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when race is here and he usually co-host

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full show with race what do you do

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come on we need a full show well tonight

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is the night you asked for it race hobbs

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all night long it's going to be a great

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conversation stay right there ufos

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ufos all night tonight

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cracker barrel all right jimmy

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jimmychurchradio.com is the email

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i don't do politics on this show don't

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do the conspiracy of politics but i

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but just in case you haven't heard by

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the biggest news in the world today

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is that joe biden has picked kamala

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harris

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i'll leave it right there all right

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check this out french authorities have

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opened a murder investigation after a 30

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of a man was found in a basement during

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of a parisian mansion that just sold for

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the property located in paris exclusive

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russia has received orders from 20

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countries for more than one

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billion doses of the world's first

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covid19 vaccine nations from latin

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sputnik 5 and that russia will produce

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nothing about anything mandatory about

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previously unknown stones with holes in

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in which is actually known as

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these stones which are vertical

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other stones of astronomical importance

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measurement works carried out jointly

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between the bayer gan observatory and

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architecture and construction the team

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monument and the adjacent area

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all stones with holes were photographed

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up astronomical calculations will begin

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based on the new highly accurate

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data absolutely incredible

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vertebrate paleontology it

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and exaggerated cures seven

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twitter uh over the last week and and

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upset that they lost thousands and

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thousands of twitter followers where

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happened to and i told rita about this i

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back to back because i was heading over

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to coast and i announced

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followers and i like to see

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you know what the bump is when i'm over

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how much of the coast audience uh comes

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to fade to black right okay it's it's

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and i logged into twitter i lost

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500 followers i got them all back though

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since uh since coast was today tuesday

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coast was saturday

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so you know but anyway

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it was uh it was pretty freaky pretty

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freaky

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all right let's get this show cracking

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happy birthday to today chris hemsworth

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is 37 years old steve wozniak

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today 70.

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eric carmen one of the all-time greats

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today's 71 years old all by myself

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you know you're singing that song to

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yourself right now all by myself

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joe jackson today

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66 years old stepping out

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yeah man what a great song charlie

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sexton today remember charlie sexton

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charlie sexton today

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is 52 years old on this day in history

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1973.

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american graffiti directed and

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co-written by george lucas

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opens in theaters across the united

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states one of the great all-time films

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right

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do you know what his next film was after

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american graffiti

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it was wait for it

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star wars went from american graffiti

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uh and if you think about it american

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graffiti go back and watch it

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and think about the storyline

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it's kind of star wars is ish yeah

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fader fact california

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california is named after a fictitious

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island described in a series of 16th

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century

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spanish romance novels and the story of

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queen calafia

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that's right and that

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is your fader fact interject your own

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jokes right there

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go ahead go ahead light it up twitter

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there it is fictitious

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oh man tonight very special guest host

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to host with race hobbes

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tomorrow night dr christopher macklin

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joins

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the show to talk about the big e.t

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conspiracy

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are ets positive on this earth negative

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on this earth or are they

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both think about that that's tomorrow

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night thursday night is another fader

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night with

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open lines all night long now it's time

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rivermooncoffee.com

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jimmy what was joe jackson's other big

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hit

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uh is she really going out with him

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that's right that's right don't mess

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with me when it comes

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to joe jackson

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joe jackson was man he was cool

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what was his album that the big album

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called

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i can tell you right now i'm not

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googling do you see me googling

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i'm not googling jumping jive

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yep i love joe jackson he's cool all

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right

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our community i love talking about our

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community

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and you know you know pretty much when i

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start a rant out each night

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it starts out with our community

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well our community talks

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they do now

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when i hear these stories about the

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locations of these facilities around the

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country from different researchers

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i always ask them if they've ever seen

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the entrance to any of them

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and the answer is always no i know why

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because they've never been to any of

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these bases and

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they've never gone out to go and

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research or try to find them

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they're there they're there

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but nobody's ever seen an entrance

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the crazy thing for me is this

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i jimmy church lived

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on an underground base

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physically on my house

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was on built on top of

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an underground base that's right

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and i saw the entrances too sure did

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more on that just a bit

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all of it is totally documented and you

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can

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find whatever you like to confirm

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everything i'm about to tell you

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online that's right

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the funny thing is at the time i

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didn't really think too much about it

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i didn't first off disguised

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that's the first thing okay i'll get to

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that in a bit

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but you see in panama

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i lived on a base that was called fort

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amador amad

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look it up that's all you got to do

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ford amador was basically built from the

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rocks and gravel that were dug out to

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make the panama canal

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the historical pictures of its

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construction

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are amazing i'm telling you right now

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my front yard was a golf course

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now i want you to picture this well

411
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that's not entirely true

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my front yard was a front yard then

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there was a street then there was

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another house

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but behind that house all the way to the

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pacific ocean

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golf course okay that was my view

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i could literally from my front yard

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look out

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if i stepped to the side of the house

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it was across the street pacific ocean

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big flat golf course with a few palm

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trees

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it's massive it was cool

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and from above as you're walking around

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that's what it looked like because

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it was it was a golf course but it was a

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golf course

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aha and

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check this out as a kid

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and especially when i first moved there

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i did a lot of exploring i did a lot of

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walking around

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and one of my favorite things to do

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uh sometimes i did this with friends i

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did this with friends a lot but

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was to go out on the golf course

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at night because the stars above it was

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insanity what you saw down there as far

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as stars go

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no there's nothing like it up here in in

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north america

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and i would just go outside

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and look up at the stars but anyway so

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i'd be walking around the golf course

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at night in the dark and lit up by the

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stars but

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anyway and i would walk by a frigging

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in the middle of this golf course i'm

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talking about you know

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hundreds of yards of just open golf

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course all the way around me

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and then there would be a vent

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coming out of the ground like a a like a

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steel smoke stack one of those little

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cones on the top

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i'm picturing maybe two there would be

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two

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i was like man what what's down there

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right and these these tubes

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were all over the place so during the

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day you'd you know and i didn't really

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think too much about it but

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i would walk around during the day and i

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would look and i could see

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you know out in the golf course these

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air

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what the heck right well okay

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from my driveway turn

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right out of my driveway 50 75 feet down

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to the end of the street where the stop

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sign in was the first

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t-box t-box number one hole number one

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first t-box

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but there was also there

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a a gravel road or gravel

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uh dry a paved uh road

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that went down into this large

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v-shaped gully

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that was it was man-made and it was

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shaped like

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this on both sides and these edges

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on the outside were probably 30 feet

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tall all right

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but anyway so the t-box you would t

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over this this ditch

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man-made though and i would walk down

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there

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and what was fascinating was on the left

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side if i'm walking

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south out to the pacific ocean

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on the left side were these

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giant concrete huge

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too uh 20 feet tall

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steel doors with these concrete

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uh buttresses that came out and there

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would always be

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a couple of cars parked there

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i never saw anybody coming and going and

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i would watch for this i

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never saw anybody get in their car and

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drive away

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some were military vehicles right mp

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military police or security some were

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just

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whatever civilian cars but

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parked outside of these entrances and i

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would walk down

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and and look and there was from what i

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remember there was like three of these

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entrances that covered probably a half a

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mile

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uh of this of this ditch

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all going underground

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underneath the golf course

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i never got to look inside i never

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you know got a peak what was going on in

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there what all the air vents were for

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and how big and how massive it was

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i don't know i don't know well i know

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how big it was but i don't know what was

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going on

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inside of there now so that is where my

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house was built

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it was unbelievable now it gets better

526
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fort amador and you can look at all of

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this online

528
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you can see where fort amador had a

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causeway

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that went out about three miles and it's

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a road

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now you when you go and look at it

533
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:33,360
anyway it uh went out and connected to

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three

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islands that were out at the end

536
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and this road connected all three those

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three islands

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all three of those islands

539
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,840
were it's they're big you can see it

540
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,200
online

541
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:56,320
we're hollow i would

542
00:27:02,470 --> 00:26:59,919
watch the cars and the staff

543
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:02,480
drive to these islands all the time the

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00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,039
last

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island okay no the second island is the

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00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,880
one that was active

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00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,880
when i was there that was sealed off

548
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:10,799
security perimeter

549
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and so forth the last island all the way

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out at the end of fort

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00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:17,840
amador that was one of the coolest

552
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:20,320
places i had ever seen in my life

553
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:23,200
and it seemed that it was semi-active

554
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,760
because

555
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:25,520
i would see the security trucks parked

556
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,799
outside of the gates

557
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,880
and sometimes they would pull through

558
00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:30,480
and they would drive around to the back

559
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:31,039
side

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00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,960
main entrance and you could see all of

561
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:36,480
this online

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00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,760
walk through and this was a bunker

563
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:42,000
system that was absolutely incredible

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00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:43,120
incredible

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00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:46,720
high huge doors and i uh we found all of

566
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:47,679
these uh

567
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,279
barrels of like nuclear war rations that

568
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:53,760
were stacked up to the ceiling

569
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:56,240
but it was room after room after room

570
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:57,039
after room

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00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:00,960
hallway hallway offices offices doors

572
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,840
it's just just everywhere and we would

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00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,279
walk through all of these

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00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,399
on the first island

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where the beach was to the right of the

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beach

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00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,919
and the clubhouse there there were these

578
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:15,440
gates

579
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,039
and uh entrances

580
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:21,679
same thing concrete concrete military

581
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:22,799
style

582
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,440
and we managed to as kids and they had

583
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:27,840
like jail doors on the front with steel

584
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:31,200
bars and we managed to

585
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,240
get a car jack and open up

586
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:37,679
the bars like this and we could fit

587
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,320
through

588
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:40,799
couldn't do it today but when you're 15

589
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:41,679
years old and

590
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,000
110 pounds you could squeeze through

591
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:45,600
these bars and we did

592
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,640
and we went up as long a

593
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,200
flight of stairs stories tall story you

594
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,520
know three four stories of stairs that

595
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:54,960
went up at an angle

596
00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:58,720
concrete up to the top

597
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,919
hallways and there was uh three uh

598
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,159
three levels like floor one floor two

599
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:06,159
floor three

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00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:09,919
long hallways with offices on both sides

601
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:13,120
and on the back side of this we found

602
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:13,600
out

603
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,799
there were missile and gun battery ins

604
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,960
installations there to protect the

605
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,880
panama canal this is the entrance of the

606
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,559
panama canal

607
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,960
and all of this is artificial and what

608
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:27,200
is interesting and if you go today

609
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:30,799
those three islands now are

610
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:34,480
uh tourist areas they have marinas out

611
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,120
there and

612
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:37,200
and yachts and it's all cleaned up and

613
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,240
fresh roads

614
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:40,320
when i lived there it was all military

615
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,919
it was all a military installation

616
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:43,360
panama's taking it over and they've

617
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,159
turned it

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00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,200
into a civilian beautiful beautiful

619
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,799
beautiful resort

620
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:50,799
um it was nothing like that when i lived

621
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:52,159
there but

622
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,230
you never know what

623
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,880
if i hadn't gone and wondered about what

624
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:04,799
these tubes were sticking out of the

625
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:05,200
ground

626
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:08,480
in the middle of nowhere i wouldn't have

627
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,679
like added up two and two every day

628
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,000
when i went to school i walked past the

629
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:16,159
first tee box to get on the bus

630
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:19,440
and i'm looking at those cars

631
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,480
down there parked outside of these doors

632
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:24,559
these concrete bunkers huge too

633
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:28,480
i'm telling you 20 foot tall doors

634
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:31,760
um all of you can go online and check

635
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:32,240
out

636
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:34,799
ford amador and and look at the

637
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,640
historical pictures i would love for all

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00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,320
of you to find some stuff

639
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:41,120
and post it up in twitter and uh let me

640
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,600
see it

641
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,360
and i'll make all the comments that you

642
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:45,760
need this is fade to black that's that's

643
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:46,240
the real

644
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,760
underground base i've seen the entrances

645
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:53,679
there you go and it just popped into my

646
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:54,880
head today

647
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:56,720
i was reading about underground bases i

648
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was like man i lived on one

649
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:01,519
this is fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight

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it is host to host with race hobbes

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the big man himself is here we will be

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ufos all night long in an open-ended

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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jimmy church radio

742
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:38,310
all right welcome back bay to black i'm

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00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:41,839
your host jimmy church

744
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,280
tonight race hobbs is here host to host

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00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,599
tomorrow night dr christopher macklin

746
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:50,240
thursday night is another fader night

747
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,240
with open lines all night long race

748
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:57,040
race is the head of programming for kgra

749
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:00,079
radio he's been involved in the ufo

750
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:02,880
community and research for over 30 years

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00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,720
during his career he has interviewed

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just about every top

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ufo researcher in the field and he has

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produced

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thousands of broadcasts from the top

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radio host in the country

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i'd like to welcome back to fade to

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00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:17,920
black the one and only raise hobbs

759
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:22,240
racy jimmy how you doing

760
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:24,079
it's always a pleasure to be with you my

761
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:26,160
brother man when did you first get those

762
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:26,880
pipes

763
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,000
like 16 no

764
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:32,079
goodness no no i think it was after i

765
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:37,510
that's what that's what did it that's

766
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,480
what did it

767
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:40,400
that's when i that's when i got the

768
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,520
barrel chest

769
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,440
that's when that happened yeah see you

770
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:45,040
know and then people go man have you

771
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,839
ever thought about

772
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,520
losing a little weight and you're

773
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:49,520
thinking to yourself do i give up the

774
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:50,640
pipes

775
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:54,000
or do i give up the weight i'm going

776
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:55,599
with the pipes i'm staying with the

777
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:58,320
pipes you have the greatest voice in all

778
00:37:03,190 --> 00:36:59,680
of talk radio

779
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:03,200
and that's the truth oh man

780
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:05,680
you know uh i tell us i tell the story

781
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:08,000
all the time since we're on the subject

782
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:11,760
i i always had this voice i had it my my

783
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,800
entire life

784
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:14,880
when i was a kid you know i was i was

785
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,560
froggy from our gang

786
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:18,960
right or whatever his name was yeah

787
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:20,160
whatever his name was

788
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,960
so um and and i hated it and people

789
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,079
would comment man you're

790
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:27,359
you're loud man your voice is boomy

791
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:30,400
uh you gotta chill out you know and and

792
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:33,680
i i hated it i wanted just a normal

793
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:34,800
voice

794
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:38,000
and i didn't realize what i had had

795
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:39,520
you know and i've never been able to

796
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:41,599
control it i i i can't i

797
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,720
i realize people hear me speak in public

798
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:47,280
in a room a dinner or whatever and i

799
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:48,880
watch people wince

800
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,400
it's loud man it's loud i can't i can't

801
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:54,800
control it

802
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:01,750
because i get excited i get quite quite

803
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,440
excited you know that reminds me if i

804
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:05,040
may i want to give a couple of shout

805
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:06,240
outs uh real quick

806
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:09,200
before we get rolling um first of all i

807
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:11,280
want to give a shout out to glock33 he's

808
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:14,240
he's my he's my partner in crime on xbox

809
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:15,200
on

810
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,320
fan and

811
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:20,000
uh i wanted to give him a shout out as

812
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:21,599
well as everybody

813
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:24,640
jimmy over at bill skywatcher's

814
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,079
uh sky watch page because they're all

815
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:30,480
listening to us he's actually piping

816
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:33,920
jimmy through kgra radio

817
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,640
to all of his sky watcher uh friends and

818
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:38,079
team over there

819
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:40,880
uh watching the uh meteor shower over

820
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:41,599
there on his

821
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:44,640
uh video channel so yeah he wanted me uh

822
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:46,960
to um you know he wanted me to let you

823
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,560
know he was running this so

824
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:50,000
they're all listening to us over there

825
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:52,000
as well i don't want to say all of the

826
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,280
fader knots of course

827
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,960
yeah right on right out did i hear you

828
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,040
say sea of thieves

829
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,440
sea of thieves yeah yeah yeah that's the

830
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,280
that's the pirate game right

831
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:04,560
it is it absolutely is yeah you play sea

832
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:05,839
of thieves

833
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:09,200
i try i try glock is actually he's the

834
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:09,680
real

835
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:12,960
legend and i'm just

836
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:15,280
aspiring to be but i've been playing the

837
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:16,800
game for a little over three weeks now

838
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:17,520
and

839
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:20,960
a pretty cool game

840
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:24,640
me know

841
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,760
jimmy we'll have to

842
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:33,760
we'll have to get together sometime and

843
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:34,960
set sail yeah

844
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,160
i wish there was a way i looked into it

845
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:40,640
i like to play rita and i we're supposed

846
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:42,560
to be talking about ufos race

847
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,320
um uh rita and i uh were big gamers you

848
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,160
know i've i've never hidden that

849
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,440
i i i'd love video games and

850
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:53,920
the whole thing came from our generation

851
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,240
i know i know i know and rita

852
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:58,240
what are you looking for all this [\h__\h]

853
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,280
let me tell you rita is out of control

854
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:03,839
when it comes to video games man you

855
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:04,880
know

856
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,119
i i i i i see what she does

857
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:11,599
with weapons and swords and things and

858
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:13,599
she wants bigger faster better and the

859
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:14,240
best of

860
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:17,520
you know an armor and all man if we had

861
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,079
if we had a gun closet at the house and

862
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,079
and we had an intruder

863
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:24,640
they'd be done i'm just telling you

864
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:25,200
right now

865
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:27,040
i i i would just step back i wouldn't

866
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,240
have to do anything

867
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,560
is that a girl man i'm telling you right

868
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:32,720
now man i'll get my popcorn

869
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,000
i'll just watch that go down rita does

870
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:38,560
not play around with video games

871
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:41,760
that is so awesome oh man she is she is

872
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,480
intense

873
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:44,560
we love it and and sea of thieves looks

874
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,680
really good but

875
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,520
we play together rita and i play

876
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:49,599
together on the same screen

877
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:52,800
so okay that's the thing with

878
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:56,000
uh uh with thieves is

879
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,960
i don't think you can do uh the couch

880
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,880
version of that where you can

881
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,560
import another player and both of you

882
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,720
can be on the same boat

883
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,400
yeah i don't know i'm not sure i know

884
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:08,880
you can play they you can play okay like

885
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,319
my man glock he plays on a stone cold

886
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,480
solid computer he built his own gaming

887
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:16,160
computer and it's like lightning fast

888
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,960
and so

889
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,800
it's one of those crossover games that

890
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:20,400
works with computer games and

891
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,440
xbox so it's it's super cool so there

892
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:25,520
may be a way you guys might be able to

893
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,160
do that

894
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:28,640
all right all right i'll look into it i

895
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,000
will i'll look into it

896
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:32,400
uh because it's a it's people love the

897
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:33,520
game and it looks

898
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,720
it looks really fun it is it it

899
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,359
is i i just gave it a shot on game pass

900
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:41,119
and i've i've been addicted to it ever

901
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:41,599
since

902
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,839
yeah yep yep go and get your boat and

903
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:45,440
head out to the open seas

904
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,800
and are are you getting good at uh

905
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,400
getting the planks of wood and going

906
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,079
down and and nailing them

907
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,720
as you're getting dude look you gotta

908
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:55,760
have a job

909
00:42:05,349 --> 00:41:59,200
and i'm the patcher baler

910
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,109
that would have been my job on a pirate

911
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:08,400
ship i wouldn't have been

912
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:11,359
you know something cool i i i'd be the

913
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,800
patron bailer

914
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,400
i've got to be honest with you jimmy

915
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,800
what a rough life but i mean

916
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:19,280
that was probably the last time you were

917
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:20,319
totally free

918
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:23,760
really free well i was talking about

919
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,040
uh panama in my opening rant and

920
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:29,760
i lived on this uh i lived on top of

921
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,160
this

922
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,480
underground base uh called fort amador

923
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,560
it's pretty cool and as a kid

924
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,359
uh going around there and exploring the

925
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,119
underground facilities

926
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,920
and and things and managing to break

927
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,520
into some of them and

928
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:46,240
and going through so much fun as a kid i

929
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:46,800
mean it was

930
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:49,839
it was a real it was a real underground

931
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,240
base

932
00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:53,520
real bunkers real this real that yeah

933
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:58,079
but uh open we could go and explore it

934
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:01,520
just imagine because the most kids

935
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:04,560
right most kids you imagine that it's a

936
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:05,200
fort

937
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,680
you imagine it's an underground bunker

938
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:09,920
you do this in the woods

939
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,200
we did it for real i made it for

940
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:15,359
real it was it was totally cool but

941
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:16,480
anyway

942
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,520
one of the things that uh i was able to

943
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:20,800
learn and do down there

944
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:25,040
was to sail and i did and i sailed a lot

945
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,240
and there is nothing like the boating

946
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,280
with a motor okay all right and

947
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:33,280
there's you know i i get it i get it

948
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:34,560
it's out there

949
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,599
sailing is a whole other thing where

950
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:39,520
you hear nothing but the wind on the

951
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:41,920
sails you hear the water hitting the

952
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:43,200
boat but it's dead

953
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:46,240
silent and that's that's a whole other

954
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:47,280
appreciation

955
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:48,800
uh talking about being out there and

956
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,359
being free that's what sailing is

957
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,200
and it is totally cool i got a little

958
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,359
taste of it man little taste yeah

959
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:57,200
you got to have your stuff together you

960
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,640
know sort of like uh

961
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,560
marillo and those hang gliders you know

962
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,400
you don't want to go into it

963
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:04,720
you know halfway you got to have

964
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,319
everything together when you once you

965
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,319
get out there and you lose sight of land

966
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,960
oh my gosh could you imagine that no no

967
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,960
no no as a matter of fact there's two

968
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:14,720
different kinds of sailing

969
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:17,280
and you bring up a really good point all

970
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:17,920
right

971
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:20,079
there's sailing where you sail over the

972
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,200
horizon

973
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:24,000
and you're no longer looking at land

974
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,000
that's crazy town

975
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,160
okay now you have to know how to

976
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,480
navigate you got to know the stars

977
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,400
you've got to have your navigation

978
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:34,240
equipment you've got you've got to be on

979
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,280
top of your game

980
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:38,160
or you're going to die it's really that

981
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,359
simple

982
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,839
the other type of sailing is you

983
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:42,960
navigate

984
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:46,400
by the land right you keep the land in

985
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:47,280
view

986
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:50,079
you can be five miles away you could be

987
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,599
six miles away

988
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:53,200
but you don't sail in the other

989
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:54,640
direction you know what i mean

990
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:57,520
you just hug right and you can go you

991
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,319
can go from

992
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:01,520
alaska all the way down to cape horn in

993
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,720
in south america just by navigating the

994
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:05,920
shoreline

995
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,839
right you don't have to lose sight of

996
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:08,960
the shore

997
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:12,960
gilligan's island you don't you that's

998
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,480
what you don't want that's no joke

999
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,280
i remember look you can also get on a

1000
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:20,800
boat that looks

1001
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:24,240
very sizable it looks very very sizable

1002
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:25,280
on the dock

1003
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,800
but once you get out there in the water

1004
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:28,560
and you can't see land you

1005
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:31,599
become very small very very fast

1006
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:34,560
that's right it's a it's really a you

1007
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,440
know it'll check out

1008
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,440
i remember blue marlin fished in costa

1009
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:38,720
rica man when about

1010
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,160
back about 15 years 20 years ago and uh

1011
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,400
when i looked back and i said hey

1012
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:46,960
where's the ground where's the land

1013
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:50,480
the land was gone and these swells that

1014
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,119
come in

1015
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:52,960
are huge you literally could have

1016
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:55,119
another boat a hundred feet away from

1017
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,480
you you wouldn't even see it

1018
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,720
for you know you go down these valleys

1019
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,240
up on these big hills

1020
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,480
and um you know but like you said it's

1021
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:03,920
the quietness

1022
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:06,240
it's the silence of the sails the wind

1023
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:07,680
and the sails and the water and the

1024
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:08,480
waves

1025
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,160
you know that no phones no computers no

1026
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,599
none of that it's just it's just you and

1027
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:18,079
and the water and the wind and the stars

1028
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:19,200
and um

1029
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,160
that to me i think that would that would

1030
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,240
probably be a great example of true

1031
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,520
freedom

1032
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,880
and also the

1033
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:31,200
you get the surprises out there this is

1034
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:34,240
actually kind of a weird ufo segue

1035
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:37,359
because once you get away

1036
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:40,560
um from civilization

1037
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:44,560
your attention now you're focused on

1038
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:47,760
the little things because something

1039
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,400
little is actually a big event

1040
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:52,640
right does that does that make sense oh

1041
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:53,440
goodness yeah

1042
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,150
does that help everybody

1043
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,630
oh man my switcher my camera switcher

1044
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:06,319
didn't go active during the commercial

1045
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,880
break

1046
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,280
so everybody was looking at uh the fade

1047
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,960
to black logo

1048
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:13,359
and uh it was supposed to be automated

1049
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,640
but it didn't do it

1050
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:16,480
i can't do everything folks here i'm not

1051
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:17,760
steven spielberg

1052
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:21,359
so uh but it's the little things

1053
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:25,119
and um when you're out there it's

1054
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:28,240
you may be able to catch

1055
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:31,599
something coming out of the water a uso

1056
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,559
or you've got the open night sky because

1057
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,079
the stars you have

1058
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:38,880
zero light pollution right and now you

1059
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,119
are

1060
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,160
exposed to everything um

1061
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:44,880
i've often wondered when you are out of

1062
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:46,000
the open sea

1063
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:49,680
race and you look how do i

1064
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,760
how do i explain this when you look at

1065
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,520
the ocean when you're out

1066
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:56,400
there and you look down that's when you

1067
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,079
realize how insignificant

1068
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:01,119
you are as a human being that

1069
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,400
because the ocean is deep and and

1070
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:07,040
big and it's endless in all directions

1071
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:08,480
and you just wonder

1072
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,599
what is down there and there's a lot of

1073
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:13,200
stuff down there and there's a lot of

1074
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:14,880
stuff that humans have never seen

1075
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:17,920
ever right uh down there but what

1076
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:24,390
that's when i would just lose my skin

1077
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:26,000
i'm telling you i would just be a

1078
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:27,119
nervous wreck

1079
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,319
yeah okay i'll tell one i'll tell one

1080
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:33,280
i'll tell one c story okay and then then

1081
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:35,440
we're gonna move on to the ufo

1082
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:38,559
let's go okay my dad and i are out

1083
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,599
on uh uh

1084
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,520
actually no let me correct this i was

1085
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:45,520
gonna say our boat

1086
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:48,559
we weren't on our sailboat

1087
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:51,520
we were on our neighbor's sailboat okay

1088
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,720
we had a yacht club there

1089
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:54,960
called the balboa yacht club our

1090
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:56,160
neighbor had

1091
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,599
it was about it's about 30 feet

1092
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,640
you know 25 30 foot sailboat pretty good

1093
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:05,280
size you know decent decent size

1094
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:08,880
and we're out sailing and it's my dad

1095
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:11,920
our neighbor sergeant whatever

1096
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:15,599
um sergeant bilco and and myself

1097
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:20,480
i am on the wheel

1098
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:23,680
i'm driving i'm i'm steering my

1099
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:28,480
dad is in the front on the bow

1100
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:31,520
sitting inside of the jib

1101
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:35,280
the sail the front sail and he's looking

1102
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:38,720
to my right towards land towards

1103
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:42,079
panama out to our left is the pacific

1104
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,720
ocean

1105
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:45,280
and the next stop is hawaii okay that's

1106
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:46,240
that's what's

1107
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:49,680
out in that direction wide open the

1108
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:52,000
guy that owned the boat our neighbor

1109
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,240
he's down below

1110
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,720
and i can see him he's like getting beer

1111
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,000
out of a refrigerator

1112
00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,640
or chips or sandwiches but i can see him

1113
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:02,240
below in the galley

1114
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,000
i'm steering and at that moment

1115
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:08,240
as i'm looking at my dad and i'm looking

1116
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:10,480
at our neighbor downstairs

1117
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:14,000
down below deck off to my left

1118
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:17,119
which is uh

1119
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,200
uh port you got to have sailing terms

1120
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,000
right there's port and starboard

1121
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:27,040
off to a port side to the left this

1122
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:31,119
giant and when i say giant

1123
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:34,880
this giant i'm going to guess and say

1124
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:38,000
30 feet bigger than the boat we're on

1125
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:41,280
30 feet across manta ray

1126
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:44,400
comes out of the water towards us just

1127
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:45,839
catches the wind

1128
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:49,359
and it's probably a quarter mile of a

1129
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:49,760
way

1130
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:52,880
to too close all right okay

1131
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,000
close and it just comes out just like

1132
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:01,589
and catches the wind and it's up

1133
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:02,559
probably 10

1134
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,599
15 feet in the air above the ocean kind

1135
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:07,680
of flaps its wings a little bit

1136
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:10,480
and i'm looking straight down its mouth

1137
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:11,119
and its

1138
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:14,880
mouth could swallow a pinto

1139
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,040
it's that big and i could see the ribs

1140
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:18,480
on the inside of its

1141
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:22,319
body it's red and i'm looking like

1142
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,440
oh my god and i see and then it just

1143
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,599
crashes back down into the water it

1144
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:29,119
lasted about

1145
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,280
three seconds i couldn't do anything

1146
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:35,359
i couldn't yell for my dad it's already

1147
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:36,640
gone right

1148
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:39,920
i can't yell below it's already came out

1149
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:42,880
and i was the most terrified person on

1150
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:43,680
the water

1151
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:46,400
for the rest of the day and what it told

1152
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:47,359
me

1153
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,480
was that you never know

1154
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:53,359
what is down below you you don't know

1155
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,720
and this thing was huge

1156
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:56,640
and if he would have come out and hit

1157
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,160
our boat and didn't know we were there

1158
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:02,640
yeah it was that big it was huge it was

1159
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:03,680
huge

1160
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:07,839
those gray whales you know

1161
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:10,400
then just they come up in the bay uh you

1162
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:11,040
know and

1163
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,240
real close to traffic you know to like

1164
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,319
private traffic and

1165
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:19,440
one of them son of guns come wailing up

1166
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,640
out of the water

1167
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:22,319
well you see it on videos all the time

1168
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:23,920
how close they come to boats

1169
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:27,040
i just i don't you know uh-uh

1170
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:29,200
yeah that's too scary it's deep out

1171
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:30,720
there it's dark and there's

1172
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,200
large stuff below you yep i've seen

1173
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:35,280
everything out there down down in panama

1174
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:38,720
sharks and whatever just just

1175
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:41,280
massive things and you just learn to

1176
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:42,960
respect the water that's it

1177
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,319
that's it um what about uh since

1178
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:49,200
we're getting close to a break uh the tv

1179
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:50,720
series the ozarks

1180
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:54,079
how close is that to you uh

1181
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:57,839
about 20 minutes oh it's that close

1182
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:01,040
yeah yeah i'm right at the where i live

1183
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,240
is at the foothills of the ozarks and at

1184
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,640
the foothills of the ouachitas

1185
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:09,119
we're in the valley that divides those

1186
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:09,680
two

1187
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:14,079
and ozark the the actual

1188
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:17,359
place is about 20 minutes from here now

1189
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:20,559
the way that the

1190
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,960
residents and the people are portrayed

1191
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:24,480
in this series

1192
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:27,839
is it close or is that just exaggeration

1193
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:28,880
it's hollywood

1194
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:38,630
so you're saying the actors are acting

1195
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:41,520
no no what they they're just being real

1196
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,559
oh really

1197
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,720
they're acting jimmy you live out there

1198
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:46,640
with them

1199
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,760
you know i mean they're

1200
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,760
i'm sure there are those that are very

1201
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:53,200
close to you know

1202
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:56,079
those kinds of characters but yeah i

1203
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:56,880
mean it's

1204
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,680
now this is this is what i read and

1205
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,680
since you're 20 minutes away you've got

1206
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:03,920
to know the local lore

1207
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:07,359
what i read is it's based on uh a real

1208
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:08,319
story a

1209
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:11,599
real uh a real club and

1210
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:15,040
a real you know uh uh boat

1211
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:18,319
boat docking you know restaurant

1212
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,599
that is on the lake and it's this this

1213
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,280
guy's adventures over a couple of

1214
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:25,839
summers that he wrote the books about

1215
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:28,880
and and it's based on the real thing

1216
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,960
have you been to that that club

1217
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:34,720
no i've never been to that club but i've

1218
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:37,760
been to that muddy-ass lake

1219
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:41,440
and and um it is not

1220
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:44,960
it is no trust me it's no paradise

1221
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:48,799
you know to i have been i have been

1222
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:52,240
it's it's a damn damned up river is what

1223
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:52,799
it is

1224
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:55,680
right that they made a lake out of and

1225
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,880
it's just not a

1226
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,960
it's never been one of my favorite

1227
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:00,559
places now arkansas

1228
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:03,680
has so many clear what

1229
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,920
there's still creeks and rivers here you

1230
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:07,440
can touch your lips to and drink the

1231
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:07,920
water

1232
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,400
right out of them right right springs

1233
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,160
you know and lakes as well

1234
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:14,640
but this is not what this is not one of

1235
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:15,200
them

1236
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,240
but you know i mean but yeah there are

1237
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:20,640
you know there are some uh you know it's

1238
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,680
not a bad bad

1239
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,359
it's not a bad place it's not one of my

1240
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:24,960
top ten

1241
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:27,280
so rita rita says to me she goes uh

1242
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:28,960
we're you know we watched all three

1243
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,480
seasons of ozark and

1244
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,559
and loved it man it's just a great

1245
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:34,400
series have you watched it

1246
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:36,640
i've seen some episodes but i haven't

1247
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:37,839
like you know what

1248
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:40,559
i'm going to tell robin okay i'm going

1249
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:41,359
to put it

1250
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:44,079
right now that bird and i are going to

1251
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:44,880
binge watch

1252
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:47,680
ozark yeah you need to you need to

1253
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:48,079
because

1254
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:51,200
i've heard you say that before um

1255
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,200
no it's great no it's top-notch it's

1256
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:54,960
top-notch it is

1257
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,559
as far as uh television programming

1258
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:01,200
goes especially right now in the last

1259
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:02,720
you know five years

1260
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:06,640
it's got to be top five if not top three

1261
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:09,680
of anything that's on on television it's

1262
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:12,880
really good the writing is good i liked

1263
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,359
it

1264
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,520
i mean i just don't have the time you

1265
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:17,760
know when i'm video gaming and working

1266
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:21,040
so anyway so rita rita has said every

1267
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:21,680
season

1268
00:56:31,069 --> 00:56:26,240
right we're sitting there watching it

1269
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:31,079
race is in arkansas right

1270
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,160
is this is this what it's really like i

1271
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:36,319
said hey we gotta ask grace

1272
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:39,520
have you seen the movie arkansas no

1273
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,440
no i heard okay no is that any good

1274
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:45,599
vince vaughn it's pretty good it's

1275
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:46,480
pretty good

1276
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:49,280
it wasn't bad okay well you know why i

1277
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:51,440
didn't watch it

1278
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:55,280
vince vaughn that's why he didn't watch

1279
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:55,680
it

1280
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:00,000
biggest baby yeah vince hasn't done

1281
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:03,760
okay vince is he's hot or cold

1282
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,400
yeah all right he's hot or cold when

1283
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:08,400
vince is on his game when he's doing

1284
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:09,680
vince vaughn

1285
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:17,030
he was really good at true detective

1286
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,640
that was a really good

1287
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:20,640
season for him he played some good vince

1288
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:22,960
vaughn there but then the other stuff

1289
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:24,839
and especially when he's trying to be

1290
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,319
funny

1291
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:29,280
really good bad guy really good bad guy

1292
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,000
all right

1293
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:33,280
so that's worth it then right yeah it is

1294
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,799
yeah i thought so it was uh definitely a

1295
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:38,480
departure from the norm

1296
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:42,079
for him well we just uh decided

1297
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:46,000
to uh watch good omens

1298
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:49,200
uh a second time and so we're in the

1299
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:50,400
middle of that

1300
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:53,359
and i forgot how good of a series that

1301
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,079
was and

1302
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:56,240
and the first two episodes just reminded

1303
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,599
me how good that was

1304
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,520
we just finished the umbrella academy to

1305
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:00,960
be honest with you

1306
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:04,960
rita and i have come to the end

1307
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:07,359
of television programming we've watched

1308
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:08,240
everything that

1309
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,280
man has produced since the beginning

1310
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,200
the the sad thing is is that there's

1311
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:15,359
nothing being made now

1312
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:18,079
you know that's it we we have run to the

1313
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:19,040
end

1314
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,520
to watch good omens again because

1315
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:25,359
we're out there's nothing uh there's

1316
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,960
nothing new to watch right now

1317
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,880
we just start over game of thrones i

1318
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,240
guess yeah i know we

1319
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:32,880
we contemplated a few different things i

1320
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:33,760
i tell you what

1321
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:37,040
i'm now into uh i'm into

1322
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,160
i do this in my spare time i'm into

1323
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:42,480
halfway through season three of the

1324
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:45,680
original star trek

1325
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:48,640
yeah the originals yeah yep yep i did it

1326
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:51,119
man i did it back to back to back

1327
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,920
and uh did season one and season two i'm

1328
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:54,880
halfway through

1329
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,240
season three right now so that that's

1330
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:00,160
where i'm at man i've tapped out

1331
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:03,200
there's we are at the end of the

1332
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:04,000
internet man

1333
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:07,119
we got you can go back to some some of

1334
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:07,839
these uh

1335
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:10,240
series that you know i went back to

1336
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,599
boston legal

1337
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:13,599
and and i started watching some of you

1338
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:15,599
know season one two and three of boston

1339
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:16,640
legal

1340
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:22,150
a lot of that stuff they made back then

1341
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:23,839
is like they made it for today

1342
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:26,960
too yeah yeah boston legal was great and

1343
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,680
and we watched that when it was uh on on

1344
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:31,280
regular tv

1345
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:34,480
yeah we uh we went back we did

1346
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:37,119
all of twin peaks all of the original we

1347
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:37,920
went back

1348
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:40,960
we did we got about

1349
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:43,920
four years into the x-files right

1350
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:46,640
seasons one two three and four

1351
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,839
always yeah but going back and and

1352
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,640
watching that stuff

1353
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:52,640
okay let's uh let's take our break right

1354
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:54,880
here race when we come back folks

1355
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:58,160
i promise we're gonna get to the ufo

1356
01:00:01,670 --> 01:00:00,000
all of it our guest tonight race hobbes

1357
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,680
host to host

1358
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:03,839
it's gonna be a great open-ended

1359
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:05,599
conversation

1360
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:07,440
this is fade to black i am your host

1361
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:08,720
jimmy church

1362
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,880
my co-host race hobbes we will be right

1363
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:12,400
back after this short break on the game

1364
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:13,359
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1365
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:37,030
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01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:39,359
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01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:30,799
jimmy church tonight host to host

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01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:36,470
i promised all ufos all night long we're

1489
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:38,400
gonna get to that tomorrow night dr

1490
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:40,960
christopher macklin joins us we're

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01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:42,480
talking about the big e.t

1492
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:44,480
conspiracy going down right now on this

1493
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:46,400
planet are the et's positive that are

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01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:47,119
here are they

1495
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:50,400
negative or is it a little bit of both

1496
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,079
well we'll find out tomorrow night

1497
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:54,319
thursday night of course is fader night

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01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:56,079
with open lines all night long

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01:06:01,589 --> 01:05:59,440
now race when i say that

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01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,599
you've been doing this for over 30 years

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01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:04,079
uh you've worked with mufon

1502
01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:06,799
you've produced literally literally

1503
01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:08,960
thousands of broadcasts from the top

1504
01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:10,160
radio host

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01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:13,359
uh in this country uh you've interviewed

1506
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:16,640
just about every researcher in the field

1507
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,079
is this is this ufo heaven right now

1508
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,400
is this e.t heaven is this what you've

1509
01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:24,000
been waiting for this last couple of

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01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:25,280
years

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01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:28,880
no no no

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01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:30,480
i i gotta you know i've had

1513
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:32,000
conversations with some very

1514
01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:34,000
close friends in the field and i don't

1515
01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:36,079
want to be now first of all just

1516
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,160
bear with me i don't want to be i don't

1517
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:40,799
want to be debbie downer here

1518
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:44,720
um you know but i was when i go back if

1519
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:46,000
i may

1520
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:51,119
when i go back to some of my mentors

1521
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:54,160
uh i've you've heard me speak of them

1522
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:55,520
many of your listeners have heard me

1523
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:57,280
speak of of

1524
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:00,319
figures like bill pitts um

1525
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:04,240
you know this guy was a guy that was

1526
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:07,839
well into his well he was into his late

1527
01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:10,240
70s when i first met him when we became

1528
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:12,559
friends and i befriended bill

1529
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:16,000
uh this is a former army air corps he

1530
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:16,799
was

1531
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:19,920
flying planes in the u.s military before

1532
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:21,760
there was an air force

1533
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:25,680
and he you know was involved

1534
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:28,160
with those heavy hitters from back in

1535
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:29,440
the day

1536
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:33,440
uh you know and was probably there you

1537
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:33,760
know

1538
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:37,920
in the very beginning

1539
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:42,000
um he was one of those guys

1540
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:44,720
who you know had been involved with the

1541
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:46,400
united states government

1542
01:07:51,029 --> 01:07:49,520
with the formation of the the air force

1543
01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:51,039
when it was formed

1544
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:56,319
with the uh you know the

1545
01:08:01,750 --> 01:07:59,359
cia and the formation of it

1546
01:08:02,789 --> 01:08:01,760
and and the intelligence branches and

1547
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:02,799
committees

1548
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:05,440
that all kind of sprang up back in the

1549
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:05,839
day

1550
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:08,480
in the you know in the uh second world

1551
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:08,880
war

1552
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:13,920
guy was one of those players that were

1553
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:14,400
you know

1554
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:17,440
he was for all intents and purposes one

1555
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:18,799
of those figures that was a

1556
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:21,920
real icon on the chessboard this guy was

1557
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,400
not

1558
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:24,960
you know some little player he was he

1559
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:26,159
was there

1560
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:29,440
uh you know even back when

1561
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:32,400
let's say like when carter was uh having

1562
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:34,640
his scientific advisors

1563
01:08:37,990 --> 01:08:37,120
you know come together with the ufo team

1564
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:38,000
to come brief

1565
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,440
them on ufos and you know that sort of

1566
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:43,440
thing he was a part of that

1567
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:46,640
um david marlar has all of his stuff in

1568
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:48,880
his museum in new mexico

1569
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,960
and i've held every piece of it that's

1570
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:52,400
in that museum

1571
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:55,359
this guy literally had a state police

1572
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:56,319
badge that had

1573
01:09:02,229 --> 01:08:59,520
ufo on it because when he went

1574
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:02,239
to you know state police and military

1575
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,239
and police officers they reported this

1576
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:06,239
stuff to him when it came in

1577
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:08,960
and he went with them to the locations

1578
01:09:14,189 --> 01:09:09,279
and

1579
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:14,199
kind of thing he was there when mufon

1580
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:17,440
assimilated the apro and all these other

1581
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:18,480
groups

1582
01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:21,600
um he was there when mufon went civilian

1583
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:24,719
and he was very much against it uh

1584
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:26,560
but my point is i think where i'm trying

1585
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:28,319
to go with this is this guy that

1586
01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:29,600
mentored me

1587
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:33,279
told me back then uh when i was probably

1588
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:35,120
10 years a little more than 10 years

1589
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,400
into my ufo

1590
01:09:40,149 --> 01:09:39,359
hobby and my ufo interest act of

1591
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:40,159
interest

1592
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:43,199
that don't expect the

1593
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:45,759
answers to be right around the corner

1594
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:46,880
because if you do

1595
01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:49,920
you're going to be let down if you

1596
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:51,839
expect the answers to be

1597
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:54,960
here before your lifetime you ma

1598
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:58,080
ends you may be let down and

1599
01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:00,960
um i think that i've gotten to that

1600
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:01,520
point

1601
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:04,560
in 30 years uh i

1602
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:08,080
have walked away from the ufo community

1603
01:10:12,390 --> 01:10:09,360
for a short period of time

1604
01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:12,400
three times jimmy three

1605
01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:15,440
three times and in those three times you

1606
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:16,640
know i got away

1607
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:19,760
for sometimes a couple of weeks to a

1608
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:20,400
month

1609
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,880
and then i was right back sometimes

1610
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:24,320
three or four months

1611
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:27,920
it took time for me to

1612
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:31,520
sort of step back and and cleanse myself

1613
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:33,760
and reevaluate where i was

1614
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:36,239
and sort of reorient myself and get my

1615
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:37,760
bearings again

1616
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:41,280
um because these holes can go

1617
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:43,600
they could go quite dark and quite deep

1618
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:45,199
and um

1619
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:48,480
you know you have to really pick

1620
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:51,679
one aspect of this phenomenon and kind

1621
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:53,120
of stick with that

1622
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,280
and specialize with that you know the

1623
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:56,880
crop circles there's

1624
01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:58,640
implants there's abductions there's you

1625
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:00,400
know there's so much to

1626
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:03,920
just the the ufo

1627
01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:07,040
letters and so i just decided to stick

1628
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:08,640
with the reports that's when i found

1629
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,199
myself going in the mufon direction

1630
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,640
and that kind of thing but now where we

1631
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:16,159
are today and that's a really good

1632
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:17,120
question

1633
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:23,830
there have been uh

1634
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:27,760
a series of of of sort of health

1635
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:31,120
uh issues that have come upon me

1636
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:33,199
that have sort of reminded me of my

1637
01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:34,880
mortality

1638
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:38,000
and with that i

1639
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:39,840
certainly have sort of had to

1640
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:42,560
re-evaluate a lot of things

1641
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,840
and uh and with that one of those things

1642
01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:47,280
is

1643
01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:50,640
damn it i want the truth to come out

1644
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:54,159
for everyone before my time

1645
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:57,840
is over here on this journey and i don't

1646
01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:00,960
feel like it's gonna happen you know

1647
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:02,080
before

1648
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:07,040
the other day jimmy what the most

1649
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:08,480
significant thing about

1650
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:11,600
ufology has been in the last you know

1651
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:12,320
year or two

1652
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:15,600
and for me the biggest

1653
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:19,840
story to hit ufology has been

1654
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:23,120
the passing of stanton friedman and

1655
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:24,960
a lot of people are shocked you know

1656
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:27,360
have been shocked when i say that to him

1657
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:31,120
but we lost a giant

1658
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:34,560
in this subject and a lot of people have

1659
01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:36,320
mourned him and a lot of people

1660
01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:39,600
have um you know they've gone on to

1661
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,520
you know continue their work and you

1662
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:43,199
know and it's sort of like he's just

1663
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:44,159
been forgotten

1664
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:46,239
and it's been over a year now and he's

1665
01:12:50,709 --> 01:12:47,679
been gone and it

1666
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:50,719
it just i i think about that man all the

1667
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,679
time

1668
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:53,760
and i think about the magnificent

1669
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:56,960
contributions that stanton friedman

1670
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:59,440
has given us and how he represented us

1671
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:00,800
all

1672
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:03,600
so very well and i was one of the people

1673
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,960
fortunate enough to do an

1674
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,800
on-camera interview with him just before

1675
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:08,640
he went and maybe

1676
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:11,360
the last one i'm not sure but could very

1677
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:12,480
well be

1678
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:16,000
uh and i i i never did release it

1679
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:20,000
honestly because uh i i started to edit

1680
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:20,719
it

1681
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:23,760
because in that interview he lost

1682
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:26,960
his train of thought several times and

1683
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,040
he had to kind of reorient himself and

1684
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:30,960
get back on point

1685
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,280
and a lot of times i just went on to the

1686
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:35,199
next question so

1687
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:36,800
i didn't want to release it without

1688
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,400
editing because i didn't want

1689
01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:40,640
some of the last video about stanton to

1690
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:42,320
go out and have these

1691
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:44,400
you know these mistakes in it that he

1692
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:46,320
normally never made

1693
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:49,520
and i just you know i've been thinking a

1694
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:51,679
lot about my own mortality

1695
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:55,199
with the loss of him and me and i

1696
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,280
i just would caution everybody because

1697
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:01,280
the big thing now

1698
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:07,280
unidentified and to the stars and a tip

1699
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:08,800
and all this crap

1700
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:12,840
and i've just been a super

1701
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:15,920
big you know black eye for everybody

1702
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:18,159
who's all hyped about this that really

1703
01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:19,600
thinks

1704
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:21,600
the government's going to tell us

1705
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:23,840
anything

1706
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:29,280
what we're getting now in my opinion

1707
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:30,239
jimmy

1708
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:33,280
is we're getting some some

1709
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:35,760
butter on the bread we're getting some

1710
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:38,000
some sugar on the doughnut

1711
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:41,520
um they're trying to grease us to make

1712
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,840
the truth when it does come out if it

1713
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:45,840
ever does come out

1714
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:48,640
it's it's there to make them not look so

1715
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,360
bad

1716
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,360
if it does come out but they're not

1717
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:53,360
going to tell it if they do

1718
01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:57,840
i don't think why uh

1719
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:04,310
it's always been back to your point

1720
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:08,239
it has always been about

1721
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:11,440
what the government knows today

1722
01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:15,040
today the the the ufo community

1723
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,800
and those that are new to the subject

1724
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:20,640
uh you know they're they're here in the

1725
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:23,360
last few years or five years

1726
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:26,880
and don't know about or have respect

1727
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:30,880
uh for the past because it's always been

1728
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:35,120
since day one the community against

1729
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:38,480
the man it's always been that fight

1730
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:41,679
it's always been there

1731
01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:45,040
and this is nothing new so for us in the

1732
01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:46,400
ufo community

1733
01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:49,840
where we are so used to trying to pry

1734
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:51,040
stuff out of the man

1735
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,320
or or facing the ridicule and the

1736
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:55,920
embarrassment because of the

1737
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,040
the way that they want to portray the

1738
01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:01,199
ufo community it's always been this

1739
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:02,239
battle

1740
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:04,960
so what's going on today certainly is

1741
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:05,760
nothing new

1742
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:08,000
and when you say these things it's

1743
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:09,280
because of the past

1744
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:11,120
it's not necessarily about what's going

1745
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:12,640
on today

1746
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,239
it's that we've been through this before

1747
01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:16,320
haven't we yeah oh goodness yeah

1748
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:18,400
yeah think of the conversations you and

1749
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:20,560
i have had with our old friend

1750
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:23,679
jim mars that's right ruled by secrecy

1751
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:24,800
was one of the greatest

1752
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:27,840
books ever written about just how

1753
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:29,920
the government suppresses the truth and

1754
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:32,239
what what links they're willing to go to

1755
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:33,280
do it

1756
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:36,080
and uh and and i saw a lot of people in

1757
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:38,159
the uh chat room here i noticed that

1758
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:40,640
rest in peace uh jim absolutely that's

1759
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:41,600
right um

1760
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:44,719
you know another great one um but at the

1761
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:46,239
time

1762
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:49,600
that i got involved in all of this

1763
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:52,000
i sort of came to the realization that

1764
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:52,880
you know

1765
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:55,440
the ufo investigators that are out there

1766
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:57,040
handing their

1767
01:17:01,750 --> 01:17:00,000
their business cards out to everybody

1768
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:01,760
that they do investigations with you

1769
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,640
always give a few

1770
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:04,320
extra pass them out to your friends that

1771
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:05,760
kind of thing

1772
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:08,800
because you know you don't want them to

1773
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:09,920
report it to

1774
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:11,760
the authorities these days you want them

1775
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:13,360
to report it to you

1776
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:16,080
because if the farmer finds something in

1777
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:16,800
his field

1778
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:18,640
you know that you know some noise not

1779
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:20,159
before he goes out there and finds

1780
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:21,280
something in his field you don't want

1781
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:22,719
him to call the air force

1782
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:26,000
you want him to call you and when that

1783
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:27,360
happens

1784
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:31,040
you're sort of putting yourself between

1785
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:34,000
that object in the dirt and a thousand

1786
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:36,159
pound gorilla

1787
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:39,679
and you know how is that gonna fit

1788
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:42,719
how is that gonna how is that gonna end

1789
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:43,600
up

1790
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:46,159
so a lot of people that get involved

1791
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:47,600
they don't really know what the

1792
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:49,040
government's

1793
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:51,520
gonna do they don't really know what

1794
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,679
they have done before

1795
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:56,000
and they don't really know sort of where

1796
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:57,679
they're putting themselves

1797
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:01,679
and it's it's just a double-edged sword

1798
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:04,800
it really it really can be

1799
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:07,760
very very bone rattling to kind of think

1800
01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:08,960
about

1801
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:12,159
uh what they're willing to do to

1802
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:15,199
to cover up this this truth

1803
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:18,640
we do know that it's true we know

1804
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:20,560
physical objects jimmy are coming and

1805
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:22,320
going in out of our

1806
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:26,080
atmosphere and there's nothing we can do

1807
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:29,520
to change that empirical

1808
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:32,480
admissible evidence is in our hands of

1809
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:33,600
objects

1810
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:35,679
coming and going a physical nature

1811
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:37,520
intelligently controlled

1812
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:40,640
and we know that for a fact so we know

1813
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:41,679
the truth

1814
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:44,560
that it's not some drone that we've had

1815
01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:45,360
and

1816
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,000
it's not even because all of that has

1817
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:50,880
sort of clouded the landscape these days

1818
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,000
we know that technology exists that is

1819
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:57,280
very very impressive but you go back

1820
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,880
45 years and it wasn't so impressive

1821
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:02,719
in the public sphere it wasn't so

1822
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:04,320
impressive what we

1823
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:07,040
saw with our own eyes you know when they

1824
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:08,159
rolled that big

1825
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:10,719
that big stealth bomber out on the the

1826
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:13,120
tarmac in palmdale california

1827
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:16,400
we were all just big chested you know

1828
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:16,880
about

1829
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:18,880
wow the united states has got this big

1830
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:20,560
black machine that can go anywhere on

1831
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:21,679
earth undetected

1832
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,719
and protect us but if they're willing to

1833
01:19:29,510 --> 01:19:26,480
show us

1834
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:29,520
that back then

1835
01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:32,000
we can only imagine that what ben rich

1836
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:32,719
said

1837
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:36,239
was real we can only imagine the words

1838
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,840
that slip

1839
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:39,920
from some of these officials and former

1840
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:41,280
officials israel

1841
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:44,719
just like with harry reid and the whole

1842
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:46,080
new york times

1843
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:49,040
sort of walking back this conversation

1844
01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:49,440
this

1845
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:52,560
uh that that took place between um these

1846
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:54,080
reporters leslie kane

1847
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:56,719
you know i mean it's it's just one of

1848
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,199
these

1849
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:59,040
after the other after the other after

1850
01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:00,560
the other after the other

1851
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:04,239
and i guess i feel a bit like um

1852
01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:06,639
i guess i feel a bit like a dog chasing

1853
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:07,280
his tail

1854
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:09,120
after 30 years in this yeah it's like

1855
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:10,960
here we go again

1856
01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:13,920
it's uh but okay there's another there's

1857
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:15,280
another way to

1858
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:16,960
for us that have been doing this for a

1859
01:20:22,709 --> 01:20:19,360
long time this there's another way for

1860
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:22,719
us to look at it and the reason why

1861
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:26,480
we are uh questioning what is actually

1862
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:27,600
going on here

1863
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:31,440
and that is this uh the

1864
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:34,880
the air force the military the pentagon

1865
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:38,000
and the cia have always had an

1866
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:41,040
interest in infiltrating the ufo

1867
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:42,000
community

1868
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,719
spreading disinformation um having

1869
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:46,400
people on their payroll

1870
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:50,159
and and controlling the narrative and

1871
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:51,920
and that was something that we were

1872
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:53,520
always aware of

1873
01:20:56,629 --> 01:20:54,960
and if you know i'm not going to bring

1874
01:20:58,149 --> 01:20:56,639
up names or the past but it was

1875
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:58,159
something that was always there it was

1876
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:00,639
tangible it wasn't intangible

1877
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:04,320
right and today

1878
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:08,239
when we look at ttsa an organization

1879
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:08,639
that

1880
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:12,239
is completely staffed with um

1881
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,239
cia xcia counterintelligence

1882
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,080
professionals

1883
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,960
then for us in the ufo community that

1884
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,080
have been through this

1885
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:24,719
before we step back and go wait a minute

1886
01:21:28,149 --> 01:21:25,120
here

1887
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:28,159
you know okay this may be good and it

1888
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:29,199
may be not

1889
01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:32,080
but we're not going to put our trust in

1890
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:33,120
this

1891
01:21:39,830 --> 01:21:36,239
right away there's got to be some time

1892
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:39,840
that that elapses here those that are

1893
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:43,280
new to the ufo game today they don't get

1894
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:43,760
it

1895
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:47,120
for you

1896
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:49,840
is is this every red flag that you can

1897
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:50,480
throw up

1898
01:21:57,110 --> 01:21:53,440
is is this what is going down right now

1899
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:57,120
i hate it i and i really shouldn't say i

1900
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:57,679
hate

1901
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:01,040
anything but i do this it's just

1902
01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:05,120
it's it's hard to reign on any parade

1903
01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:08,800
right jimmy it's it's difficult and

1904
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:11,199
there are a lot of talented young guns

1905
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,080
and i'm you know

1906
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:15,040
that's that's sort of a term taken from

1907
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:15,920
chase and

1908
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:17,840
john burroughs and several other people

1909
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:20,480
that they use that term to describe

1910
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,400
these younger generation that's that's

1911
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:24,080
coming up and and they're so

1912
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:26,960
bright and they're so they're so

1913
01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:27,679
talented

1914
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:31,280
um and they're looking at this

1915
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:34,480
horizon this ufo uap landscape out in

1916
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,679
front of them

1917
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:37,679
and uh you know and they've got high

1918
01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:40,000
hopes that they're gonna be

1919
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:43,199
the the the generation that uncovers

1920
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:43,920
this truth

1921
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:47,600
and i don't wanna for one second

1922
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:50,960
sort of hold them back but

1923
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:54,400
if you know if at the time you know

1924
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:56,960
i talk with them and i tell them some of

1925
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:59,120
these things about what i've uncovered

1926
01:23:02,629 --> 01:23:00,719
what i've learned

1927
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,639
what i've heard on the air what i've

1928
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:05,120
heard more importantly off the air

1929
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:07,760
um it can be disheartening to them it

1930
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:08,400
can be

1931
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,199
and a lot of them

1932
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:15,199
that some of them walk away and say oh

1933
01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:16,400
he's just a you know

1934
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:19,280
he's just grumpy and he's just mad and

1935
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:20,400
you know because

1936
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:22,719
you know hit what he tried didn't work

1937
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:23,520
or whatever

1938
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,840
and then some of them walk away and say

1939
01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:27,120
you know this guy's

1940
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,159
got his stuff together and you know we

1941
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:32,320
need to listen to his advice

1942
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:36,960
and for those i would say take my advice

1943
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:40,320
don't follow it just take it and use it

1944
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:43,600
when you can because honestly

1945
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:46,000
i want everyone to come to their own

1946
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:46,880
conclusions

1947
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:50,960
and i don't want to presume to know

1948
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:54,639
anything or be an expert on anything

1949
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:58,080
other than you know being a radio

1950
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:00,000
producer

1951
01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:03,360
i'm pretty expert at that

1952
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:07,760
the uh the appearance

1953
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:12,480
it seems uh looking from the outside

1954
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:16,800
it seems that the narrative

1955
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:20,719
wants to be controlled that

1956
01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:23,520
nobody else matters and their opinions

1957
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:24,880
don't matter

1958
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,000
and for me race this is i can

1959
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:31,360
i can live without ttsa right now ttsa

1960
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:32,560
goes away

1961
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:35,520
it doesn't change me it doesn't even

1962
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:36,960
change this community

1963
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:39,920
the things that i have seen are the

1964
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:40,880
reasons why

1965
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:43,600
i am here i've seen things that i cannot

1966
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:44,719
explain

1967
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:47,360
and you you've chosen to walk away from

1968
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:49,600
the ufo community a few times

1969
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:52,960
if uh if i walked away and i was

1970
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:56,320
done i'm still left with my own

1971
01:25:02,629 --> 01:24:59,679
experiences and those questions about

1972
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,639
what i have seen and none of it has

1973
01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:04,719
anything to do with ttsa

1974
01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:07,360
it's it's got nothing to do with it and

1975
01:25:10,629 --> 01:25:08,400
and that's

1976
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:10,639
that's what's most important and and

1977
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:11,679
that's what

1978
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:14,639
keeps the ufo community together it's

1979
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:17,040
what they've seen their experiences and

1980
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:17,600
what has

1981
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:20,400
drawn them into the community they're

1982
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:21,360
not here because

1983
01:25:26,950 --> 01:25:25,040
ttsa came on the scene you know and

1984
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:26,960
that's that's what we cannot lose sight

1985
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:28,480
of that's true

1986
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:29,760
that's true and you know i didn't mean

1987
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:31,679
to digress from your former your your

1988
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:32,320
previous

1989
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:35,679
question but i mean for for me they are

1990
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:37,920
really you know there's you're either

1991
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:38,800
super pro

1992
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:42,000
or super against and i you know i'm one

1993
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:44,400
of those guys who appreciates

1994
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:46,400
some of the stuff that's going on that

1995
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:47,840
way but i don't

1996
01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:51,199
trust any of it i just don't and you're

1997
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,159
exactly right

1998
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,400
the you know there's enough out there in

1999
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:56,719
the ufo landscape for everybody to find

2000
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:58,560
something to chew on and it tastes good

2001
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:59,440
to them

2002
01:26:02,629 --> 01:26:00,960
you know there's there's a little

2003
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:02,639
something i think for everybody

2004
01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:05,440
and most people are involved in all of

2005
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:06,639
this

2006
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:08,880
because of what you said not because of

2007
01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:11,120
uh you know not because of

2008
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:13,120
to the stars no no they're not here

2009
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:14,800
because of three videos

2010
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:17,920
and this is and this is the point that i

2011
01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:21,600
constantly have to remind everybody of

2012
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:24,480
when it comes to ttsa and the staff that

2013
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:26,159
is over there from jimmy

2014
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:29,120
from jim semivan on down is that my

2015
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:29,760
fingers

2016
01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:33,840
remain crossed i'm hopeful

2017
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:37,360
you you never know maybe

2018
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:40,480
something huge is gonna break it's gonna

2019
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,960
we have to wait until 2021

2020
01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:44,719
but maybe there's something out there

2021
01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:47,679
maybe is something will come of it

2022
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:50,560
my fingers are crossed do i think

2023
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:52,480
something is going to come of it

2024
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:55,679
no no i don't and that's i think that is

2025
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,960
very unfortunate

2026
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,800
because so many people have vested

2027
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:00,800
emotions

2028
01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:04,159
into ttsa and the navy

2029
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:06,159
and the and the pilots and and the

2030
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:07,280
videos

2031
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:09,760
and the senate and marco rubio and the

2032
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:11,360
new york times and

2033
01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:14,800
and and they feel that uh finally

2034
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,560
these days are in front of us where

2035
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:18,480
disclosure is here

2036
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:22,320
um i i just i don't feel it i'm hopeful

2037
01:27:25,669 --> 01:27:24,719
i'm hopeful and you're right we can't

2038
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:25,679
discount

2039
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:28,000
anything that anybody's doing can't do

2040
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:28,880
that that's the

2041
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:31,920
wrong way to approach this but in in my

2042
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:32,880
heart of hearts

2043
01:27:37,350 --> 01:27:36,159
i just feel like this is this is us

2044
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:37,360
getting played

2045
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:41,520
again that's and that's my take

2046
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:44,159
i think it's a good take i think it's a

2047
01:27:48,070 --> 01:27:45,280
good take

2048
01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:48,080
but always remember there are those

2049
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:49,679
little gems

2050
01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:52,560
of truth involved in all of the bs that

2051
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:54,239
they push

2052
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:57,360
and you know let's just keep a

2053
01:28:00,870 --> 01:27:59,520
keep a sharp eye out for things that

2054
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:00,880
make

2055
01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:04,080
common sense because i honestly think

2056
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:07,040
that wrapping a human mind around

2057
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:08,639
something that is absolutely

2058
01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:11,520
not human is going to be difficult for

2059
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:11,920
them

2060
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:16,159
and us so with that said

2061
01:28:22,070 --> 01:28:19,120
they've got about a 70-year head start

2062
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:25,430
so you know i think i think there's

2063
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:26,239
going to be no

2064
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:29,760
choice but for the truth to

2065
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:31,760
come out eventually i don't think

2066
01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:32,880
they're going to be able to

2067
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:34,080
i don't think they're going to be able

2068
01:28:38,870 --> 01:28:36,159
to hold it in uh

2069
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:38,880
for you know 100 i just don't think so i

2070
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,199
got to remain hopeful that

2071
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:43,520
uh you know that these things are

2072
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:44,639
fallible just like

2073
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,159
everything we make is and that one day

2074
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:50,800
you know god forbid that one of them

2075
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,880
gets hurt its occupants get hurt but one

2076
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:54,800
of those things crashes or lands

2077
01:28:57,510 --> 01:28:56,639
somewhere where they can't cover it up

2078
01:29:00,149 --> 01:28:57,520
anymore

2079
01:29:00,870 --> 01:29:00,159
and when that happens then we're home

2080
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:00,880
free

2081
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:02,960
and we'll continue this conversation

2082
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:04,480
when we come back after the break

2083
01:29:08,470 --> 01:29:06,080
because that's in a very

2084
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,480
that's a very important point tonight

2085
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:10,800
it's host to host with race hobbes

2086
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:12,639
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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2184
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2185
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2186
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:38,480
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2189
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2190
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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2191
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:29,520
jimmy church tonight race hobbs

2192
01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:33,360
host to host tomorrow night dr

2193
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christopher macklin joins us for the

2194
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first time thursday night is another

2195
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2196
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2197
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:41,360
tonight it's all about

2198
01:34:46,790 --> 01:34:44,480
racy hobbs and race you bring up uh one

2199
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:46,800
of the best points uh about all of this

2200
01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:48,400
i want to continue

2201
01:34:53,510 --> 01:34:52,080
that when when it happens

2202
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:53,520
i don't want to say if it happens

2203
01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:56,000
because it's going to be a win

2204
01:34:59,590 --> 01:34:58,719
when the cat gets out of the bag it's

2205
01:35:04,149 --> 01:34:59,600
going to be

2206
01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:04,159
out of the government's control isn't it

2207
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,400
oh of course it is it's absolutely going

2208
01:35:08,629 --> 01:35:08,000
to be out of their hands out of their

2209
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:08,639
control

2210
01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:11,280
when it does happen um you know it's

2211
01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:12,320
it's

2212
01:35:18,229 --> 01:35:15,520
things where uh

2213
01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:18,239
you know it's it's going to be something

2214
01:35:21,189 --> 01:35:19,040
that's going to be

2215
01:35:22,149 --> 01:35:21,199
totally unbelievable to the public at

2216
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:22,159
first

2217
01:35:25,510 --> 01:35:24,880
and they're going to do whatever they

2218
01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:25,520
can

2219
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:28,159
to shut the narrative to control the

2220
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:29,840
narrative and shut the truth down i

2221
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:30,639
think

2222
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:32,880
um you know making it something like

2223
01:35:35,830 --> 01:35:33,760
sort of the

2224
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:35,840
kecksburg incident and they've done

2225
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:37,520
these things before and they're quite

2226
01:35:40,950 --> 01:35:38,400
good at it

2227
01:35:42,070 --> 01:35:40,960
and i think in a lot of cases in a lot

2228
01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:42,080
of ways

2229
01:35:49,350 --> 01:35:46,159
these these truths um have been

2230
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:49,360
uh exposed already and then in the

2231
01:35:52,229 --> 01:35:50,719
future

2232
01:35:54,149 --> 01:35:52,239
i don't think that it's going to be so

2233
01:35:57,109 --> 01:35:54,159
easy for them to you know

2234
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:57,119
to sort of cover up do you think it's

2235
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:58,080
going to be

2236
01:36:01,910 --> 01:36:00,480
if you were going to speculate because

2237
01:36:03,830 --> 01:36:01,920
we've got all of this

2238
01:36:05,830 --> 01:36:03,840
stuff that has been brought out in the

2239
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:05,840
last couple of years it's actually three

2240
01:36:11,109 --> 01:36:08,159
years we're going into year four

2241
01:36:12,070 --> 01:36:11,119
uh i i i it's hard for me to wrap my

2242
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:12,080
head around

2243
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:16,239
december 17 2017

2244
01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:17,920
we're coming up on the three-year

2245
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:20,400
anniversary going into year four

2246
01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:21,760
and we're still sitting on the same

2247
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:24,960
material from 2017 but that being said

2248
01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:29,280
um do you think it's going to be

2249
01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:31,520
something from the internet you know

2250
01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:33,840
some kind of document download some kind

2251
01:36:37,510 --> 01:36:34,080
of

2252
01:36:40,070 --> 01:36:37,520
white hat anonymous uh

2253
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:40,080
hacking and we're gonna get exposure and

2254
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:41,520
disclosure that way

2255
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:43,679
or is it gonna come from the heavens is

2256
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,040
it gonna be something

2257
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:47,360
uh in the skies if you were going to be

2258
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:49,040
a betting man in vegas where would you

2259
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,400
go with that

2260
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:52,159
i think it's gonna have to be something

2261
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:54,159
physical and it's gonna have to be

2262
01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:56,400
something in front of all of us

2263
01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:58,800
um you know it's sort of like the

2264
01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:00,080
bigfoot mystery

2265
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:03,119
you know it's it's gonna take a bigfoot

2266
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:08,000
body cadaver um living or not

2267
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:11,440
before we have any bearing on what this

2268
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:12,080
thing is

2269
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:14,880
if it is and and uh i think the same is

2270
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:16,719
going to be for

2271
01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:20,400
the subject of alien visitation we know

2272
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:21,520
aliens exist

2273
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:23,600
intelligent life exists in the universe

2274
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:25,040
it's a mathematical

2275
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:27,440
certainty that's right um you know it's

2276
01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:30,000
there's just no way it can't be

2277
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:33,440
we just don't quite understand if

2278
01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:36,719
they're here or not or we don't have the

2279
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:38,239
proof whether or not they're here or not

2280
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:39,760
and they very well could be from this

2281
01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:41,199
solar system as well

2282
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,320
or they could be from the earth a long

2283
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:46,320
long long long time ago and there's just

2284
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:48,880
a handful of them that are still around

2285
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:51,600
it could be what marzulli thinks you

2286
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:53,440
know l.a marzulli believes that these

2287
01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:54,400
things are

2288
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:56,800
fallen angels and that they were

2289
01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:58,800
banished to the earth

2290
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:00,800
and that they've been here you know

2291
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:02,560
meddling so to speak

2292
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:04,960
um they could be interdimensional it

2293
01:38:09,510 --> 01:38:06,000
could be

2294
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:09,520
any number of things and there are

2295
01:38:14,629 --> 01:38:12,639
uh there are so many books out there and

2296
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:14,639
so many researchers and investigators

2297
01:38:19,030 --> 01:38:16,960
out there that are on top of all of it

2298
01:38:20,149 --> 01:38:19,040
and books that well-written books that

2299
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:20,159
that sort of

2300
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:22,719
are very compelling and and can inspire

2301
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:23,440
us to

2302
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:26,400
uh you know to to take that turn down

2303
01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:29,840
that road and go see what's down there

2304
01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:32,239
but for me i think it's literally going

2305
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:34,880
to take something physical

2306
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:36,880
uh something that science can put its

2307
01:38:41,669 --> 01:38:37,920
hands on

2308
01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:41,679
uh you know well okay

2309
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:45,040
you went through uh

2310
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:48,239
man you went through mj 12

2311
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:50,960
the document dump right you went through

2312
01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:52,960
that i went through that

2313
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:56,400
uh when when that was going down and i

2314
01:39:04,390 --> 01:39:00,639
i read every page of everything

2315
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:04,400
probably 50 times or more right just

2316
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:07,600
over it just pouring over and and

2317
01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:10,880
what a huge thing that was and that was

2318
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:11,280
a

2319
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:40,000
reminds

2320
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:42,719
me of what we went through with mj 12.

2321
01:39:48,790 --> 01:39:45,760
is the wilson davis document

2322
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:48,800
uh something that we should

2323
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:51,600
again consider part of disclosure is it

2324
01:39:58,229 --> 01:39:54,719
that big of a deal or not

2325
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:58,239
no no no you know

2326
01:40:01,910 --> 01:40:00,000
you know what that reminds me of a

2327
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:01,920
little bit it's loosely

2328
01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:05,040
reminds me of our friend linda molten

2329
01:40:10,950 --> 01:40:07,360
house trip to kirkland air force base

2330
01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:10,960
it does um you know when she was brought

2331
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:13,199
onto the base under the you know

2332
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:14,239
auspices of

2333
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,920
you know they're going to give her some

2334
01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:17,840
information some contacts and their

2335
01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:20,320
contact information

2336
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:23,360
to look into the subject of

2337
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:26,880
uh you know a ufo landing on a runway

2338
01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:30,239
and literally like evaporating weapons

2339
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:30,800
out of

2340
01:40:36,790 --> 01:40:34,480
uh security hands and that sort of thing

2341
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:36,800
and then she gets there she goes to a

2342
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:39,920
room with a two-way glass and she's

2343
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:42,480
you know sort of informed that you know

2344
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:44,560
you're not here to get this

2345
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:48,159
you're here for this and then they lay

2346
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:49,679
this manila

2347
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:52,400
folder in front of her you know that has

2348
01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:53,040
project

2349
01:40:56,709 --> 01:40:55,679
garnet on it and you're allowed to look

2350
01:40:58,870 --> 01:40:56,719
at this you can

2351
01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:58,880
read it and and review it and look it

2352
01:41:02,470 --> 01:41:00,719
over you can't take any notes you can't

2353
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:02,480
take any photographs you can't take any

2354
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:04,480
of it with you

2355
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:07,119
you know she walks away from that with

2356
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:07,760
you know

2357
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:09,840
the the idea that the government has

2358
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:12,159
done a fulling out

2359
01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:15,760
uh investigation and research study on

2360
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:18,800
uh the the subject of

2361
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:22,080
alien visitation and uh the conclusion

2362
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:24,560
was that our dna was tampered with

2363
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,560
thousands of years ago and that

2364
01:41:29,510 --> 01:41:28,239
essentially the earth is populated with

2365
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:29,520
over six

2366
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:33,760
billion androids and that we're all

2367
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:37,199
aliens in effect and

2368
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:42,000
they went after one of the best

2369
01:41:49,270 --> 01:41:45,679
journalists at the time to corrupt her

2370
01:41:52,149 --> 01:41:49,280
mind they put truth in that

2371
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:52,159
folder and they put a lot of lies in

2372
01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:53,760
that folder

2373
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:58,159
and what is going to happen

2374
01:42:02,550 --> 01:42:00,000
you know you have an emmy award-winning

2375
01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:02,560
peabody multiple peabody award-winning

2376
01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:05,280
journalists that took on the subject of

2377
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,480
ufos and aliens and and uh cattle

2378
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:09,760
mutilations

2379
01:42:14,310 --> 01:42:12,320
is what she came into it they never

2380
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:14,320
thought that she was someone like her

2381
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:15,840
and her credentials was going to get

2382
01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:17,040
involved in this

2383
01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:19,840
and they knew that when she partnered up

2384
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:20,239
with

2385
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:24,000
hbo and she had that big checkbook

2386
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:26,960
she was going to go do some some damage

2387
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:28,480
some kind of a way

2388
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:32,080
they knew that what they were doing

2389
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:34,239
and the narrative that they were playing

2390
01:42:39,030 --> 01:42:35,119
was going to be

2391
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:39,040
tampered with helicopters

2392
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:42,639
with lights on them to look like ufos

2393
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:46,000
cattle's being jerked up to the sky and

2394
01:42:52,629 --> 01:42:49,280
you know no blood and laser precision

2395
01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:52,639
cuts and you know rectums cored out and

2396
01:42:56,229 --> 01:42:55,520
tongues gone and eyes gone and you know

2397
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:56,239
the whole

2398
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:00,400
bit well you know for any scientist

2399
01:43:03,750 --> 01:43:02,080
back then that was involved in

2400
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:03,760
government

2401
01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:06,800
work civilian or military

2402
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:10,000
they all knew that when this all started

2403
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:12,320
these cows were being jerked up into the

2404
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:13,199
air

2405
01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:15,360
in places where there was nuclear

2406
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:17,280
fallout and nuclear winds

2407
01:43:22,830 --> 01:43:19,520
and that they wanted to look and see

2408
01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:22,840
what was happening to the food chain

2409
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:26,560
um could that be the narrative that

2410
01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:29,840
they were playing was she infringing

2411
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:33,440
on that narrative um but they certainly

2412
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:35,440
pulled her in for some reason and they

2413
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:36,880
showed her this folder

2414
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:39,679
that wasn't true she doesn't believe

2415
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:41,040
today that it was true

2416
01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:44,080
and i don't believe it was true but this

2417
01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:44,960
whole thing

2418
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:48,000
about the wilson document reminds me of

2419
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:49,600
that it's like

2420
01:43:57,189 --> 01:43:53,679
they it's like it's like when when

2421
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:57,199
we start to get a little closer to some

2422
01:44:01,030 --> 01:44:00,239
some little nugget of the truth they

2423
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:01,040
come in

2424
01:44:04,709 --> 01:44:04,000
and they throw a wrench in the game to

2425
01:44:08,709 --> 01:44:04,719
sort of

2426
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:08,719
control the conversation again and

2427
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:12,719
you know i want to believe that it was

2428
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:15,360
it was a legit document joe that the

2429
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:16,880
whole thing was legit because i love

2430
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:18,880
richard dolan with all my heart i love

2431
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:20,480
grant cameron with all my heart and

2432
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:21,920
these guys

2433
01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:24,400
they believe that it's the it's the deal

2434
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:26,639
you know what i mean and

2435
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,800
they're smart intelligent people richard

2436
01:44:32,070 --> 01:44:30,320
dolan's one of the smartest people i

2437
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:32,080
know

2438
01:44:39,910 --> 01:44:35,280
but i don't buy it do you

2439
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:43,510
it's tough for me um

2440
01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:46,480
race i never i i never go all in on

2441
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:47,840
anything

2442
01:44:54,709 --> 01:44:51,280
i i've gone all in before right

2443
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:54,719
i've gone all in before i i just don't

2444
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:55,840
do that now

2445
01:44:59,750 --> 01:44:58,159
the only thing i go all in on are the

2446
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:59,760
things that i've seen with my two

2447
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:01,040
eyeballs

2448
01:45:04,149 --> 01:45:03,679
right i'm pretty confident with that

2449
01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:04,159
right

2450
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:06,080
i'm pretty confident especially when i

2451
01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:08,960
have witnesses around me and we can all

2452
01:45:12,470 --> 01:45:11,600
discuss this together now when it comes

2453
01:45:16,390 --> 01:45:12,480
to the

2454
01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:16,400
the wilson document i uh

2455
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:19,679
i look at this now and

2456
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:22,960
i truly believe i think that the

2457
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:24,480
evidence is there

2458
01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:27,600
that eric davis dr eric davis

2459
01:45:34,229 --> 01:45:31,040
wrote this document the document is real

2460
01:45:36,629 --> 01:45:34,239
it's a real document it's the contents

2461
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:36,639
of the document that we need to put into

2462
01:45:40,310 --> 01:45:37,920
question

2463
01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:40,320
okay did he actually write it did he

2464
01:45:43,510 --> 01:45:42,159
distribute it did it go to put off did

2465
01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:43,520
it go to kid green

2466
01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:46,159
right did it go to the rest of the the

2467
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:47,360
uh the bigelow

2468
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:50,000
the bass group did everybody have access

2469
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:50,639
to it

2470
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:54,000
all right but it's the contents

2471
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:57,040
i feel a little bit strange and

2472
01:46:00,550 --> 01:45:59,600
that's that's i don't know and parts of

2473
01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:00,560
it are real

2474
01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:03,760
right parts of it are documented uh fact

2475
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:05,920
and then it's the other stuff around it

2476
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,679
and then we have to step back and ask

2477
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:09,360
the questions why would

2478
01:46:14,709 --> 01:46:12,480
a guy with a phd who wants to be a

2479
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:14,719
physicist who is a physicist who's got a

2480
01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:16,159
career going on

2481
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,360
why would a guy for the last 20 uh 20

2482
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:21,520
years 20 plus years

2483
01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:25,360
uh always be at the center of the crazy

2484
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:27,040
town stuff

2485
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:29,280
he's always at the at the center of the

2486
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:32,080
craziest stuff that you can think of

2487
01:46:38,950 --> 01:46:35,360
warp drives right skin

2488
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:38,960
walker uh alien autopsy films

2489
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:41,520
bigfoot's coming out of portals right

2490
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:42,560
right right

2491
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:46,080
all of the crazy town stuff is

2492
01:46:51,189 --> 01:46:49,600
is of senate hearings i just i just told

2493
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:51,199
the senate we've got crash flying

2494
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:52,000
saucers

2495
01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:54,880
right everybody that everything all the

2496
01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:56,480
crazy town stuff

2497
01:47:00,950 --> 01:47:00,159
it's it's it's dr eric davis and it goes

2498
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:00,960
back to

2499
01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:03,040
the point that i made earlier that you

2500
01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:04,239
touched upon

2501
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:07,119
is that this is all coming from a cia

2502
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:09,920
narrative this is coming from a pentagon

2503
01:47:14,629 --> 01:47:10,480
this

2504
01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:14,639
loose group yes yes yes

2505
01:47:21,430 --> 01:47:18,480
and and if you're not questioning this

2506
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:21,440
you i mean you have to you have to and

2507
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:22,960
that's where

2508
01:47:28,149 --> 01:47:26,159
um and i appreciate richard dolan

2509
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:28,159
his research second to none there's no

2510
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:29,440
question about it

2511
01:47:33,510 --> 01:47:32,000
and and when he was on the show a couple

2512
01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:33,520
of weeks ago and we talked about the

2513
01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:36,239
the document and i gave him free reign

2514
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:38,320
he answered all of my questions and he

2515
01:47:42,709 --> 01:47:39,199
gave

2516
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:42,719
uh uh his research out

2517
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:44,480
and and there it is and if you want to

2518
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:46,000
go listen to the show go listen to it

2519
01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:46,560
you can

2520
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:49,920
uh hear richard's perspective on it i'm

2521
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:50,880
and he knows

2522
01:47:57,750 --> 01:47:54,000
he knows my take i just i'm

2523
01:48:01,109 --> 01:47:57,760
i'm not buying it the document's real

2524
01:48:04,629 --> 01:48:01,119
goes back to linda

2525
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:04,639
and richard dodie right at kirkland

2526
01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:07,760
and and the air force office of special

2527
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:09,600
investigations and linda goes into that

2528
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:10,560
office

2529
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:14,719
she's shown real documents

2530
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:17,679
it's the contents of the documents that

2531
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:19,040
are not real

2532
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:21,760
right right right and that's where i

2533
01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:22,560
feel like

2534
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,760
we are at uh you know mj 12

2535
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:27,920
real documents somebody typed them up

2536
01:48:34,629 --> 01:48:31,199
the the documents themselves are real

2537
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:34,639
it's what's in them that's a that's a

2538
01:48:36,709 --> 01:48:36,159
whole different thing that we need to

2539
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:36,719
always

2540
01:48:41,750 --> 01:48:40,320
constantly go back and and get our feet

2541
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:41,760
back on the ground right

2542
01:48:46,149 --> 01:48:45,040
and get centered again and that's where

2543
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,159
i'm at with this

2544
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:49,199
i i've been through mj 12

2545
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:51,440
and so did richard and and so many other

2546
01:48:56,950 --> 01:48:53,760
researchers where we have been down this

2547
01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:56,960
road do you remember this is what's

2548
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:59,440
crazy you know jamie chanda ray and bill

2549
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:00,000
moore

2550
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:03,280
and and right stanton friedman

2551
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,040
caught in the middle of all of this too

2552
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:07,440
as well the press conferences

2553
01:49:11,590 --> 01:49:09,440
and the releases of the documents and

2554
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:11,600
the story

2555
01:49:19,990 --> 01:49:19,280
right behavior and and go to this

2556
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:20,000
mailbox

2557
01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:22,480
and then go to this airport when you get

2558
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:24,239
to the airport go here

2559
01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:27,280
and this whole cloak and dagger

2560
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:29,840
thing that they were it seemed like the

2561
01:49:33,189 --> 01:49:30,800
greatest

2562
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,199
ufo spy story ever in the history of

2563
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:35,520
anything and i bought into it man

2564
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:38,400
i bought into it but and i i still love

2565
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:39,679
to this day hearing

2566
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:42,880
grant cameron tell that story no nobody

2567
01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:43,679
can tell it

2568
01:49:49,030 --> 01:49:47,440
faster nobody i mean he can get the

2569
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,040
whole story out in about

2570
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:51,599
20 minutes and that's about a two-hour

2571
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:54,080
conversation for me and you

2572
01:49:57,270 --> 01:49:56,719
but he can get it out there man he he

2573
01:50:05,189 --> 01:49:57,280
was

2574
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:05,199
time ago and uh but yeah i mean

2575
01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:08,560
it's uh it's you know i talked with dr

2576
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:09,040
ward

2577
01:50:12,229 --> 01:50:11,360
about the legitimacy of the of the j of

2578
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:12,239
the documents

2579
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:15,360
at nauseam oh dr wood dr wood

2580
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:18,400
dr wood yes excuse me and uh and then

2581
01:50:23,189 --> 01:50:20,480
with stanton you know what i mean in his

2582
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:23,199
whole inclusion in all of this and how

2583
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:26,320
you know he felt uh

2584
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:29,599
you know he felt jerked and uh you know

2585
01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:31,760
he felt like there was a lot of fact in

2586
01:50:36,790 --> 01:50:32,880
it though you know

2587
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:36,800
and it's truths it is those truths that

2588
01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:37,119
are

2589
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:40,400
wound up inside these enigmas that

2590
01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:43,199
really binge you i mean and it can break

2591
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:43,520
you

2592
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:47,440
it

2593
01:50:52,149 --> 01:50:49,840
and you know this whole stuff like again

2594
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:52,159
going back today man there was some

2595
01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:55,360
real theatrics going on back in the day

2596
01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:56,800
man like

2597
01:51:04,229 --> 01:51:03,350
i i have to say that a lot of it's just

2598
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:04,239
like uh

2599
01:51:12,470 --> 01:51:07,280
it happens on a spindle and

2600
01:51:15,589 --> 01:51:12,480
every three four years or so

2601
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:15,599
we are given some you know

2602
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:18,960
something to play with but you know it's

2603
01:51:21,669 --> 01:51:20,400
starting to feel like me you know those

2604
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:21,679
little merry-go-rounds that were in the

2605
01:51:24,629 --> 01:51:23,280
playgrounds at school when we were

2606
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:24,639
little you know that i don't even think

2607
01:51:29,589 --> 01:51:26,000
they have them anymore

2608
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:29,599
no no i nearly died every time i touched

2609
01:51:34,709 --> 01:51:30,320
one of those

2610
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:37,430
me and you and richard dolan and and and

2611
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:39,119
linda bolton howe are all

2612
01:51:42,709 --> 01:51:41,599
on it and i'm across from you and she's

2613
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:42,719
across from richard

2614
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:47,280
linda's cross from richard and and then

2615
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:51,119
then there's you know eric davis and

2616
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:54,400
you know pal and and ben green and all

2617
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:55,679
these cats

2618
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:58,800
that are pushing it and we're all trying

2619
01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:00,320
to hold a conversation while they're

2620
01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:02,000
spinning this damn thing as fast

2621
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:05,920
as they can and where are we gonna get

2622
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:09,440
but sick to our stomach in the end

2623
01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:12,080
when you try to follow those spooks

2624
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:12,800
you're gonna

2625
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:16,480
sick because when i

2626
01:52:20,790 --> 01:52:19,520
thought that tom delong was going to use

2627
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:20,800
his influence

2628
01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:23,520
to get involved in this and make

2629
01:52:27,910 --> 01:52:25,599
something positive happen

2630
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:27,920
and then wikileaks drops this bomb and

2631
01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:29,840
releases all these names and everything

2632
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:31,199
and then i thought it's all going to go

2633
01:52:34,390 --> 01:52:33,119
away because all these people are now

2634
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:34,400
out in the open

2635
01:52:38,070 --> 01:52:35,679
and he's not going to be able to do the

2636
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:38,080
work that he was doing or was he being

2637
01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:39,360
jerked himself

2638
01:52:43,589 --> 01:52:42,320
or was there elements you know in the

2639
01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:43,599
government because we know

2640
01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:45,040
there are elements in the government

2641
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:48,000
that will leak classified stuff these

2642
01:52:50,550 --> 01:52:48,480
days

2643
01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:50,560
i mean it's just kind of an everyday

2644
01:52:54,629 --> 01:52:52,480
thing anymore

2645
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,639
um but are there people that are going

2646
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:57,040
to leak the truth about

2647
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:58,800
you know what's going on in the subject

2648
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:00,239
of alien visitation

2649
01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:04,320
and uh ufos no it didn't happen

2650
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:07,840
and now i've come to learn in my opinion

2651
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:10,239
i've just come to learn that there are a

2652
01:53:15,910 --> 01:53:12,000
lot of people out there trying to

2653
01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:15,920
line the pockets of their labs and their

2654
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:18,080
research organizations

2655
01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:21,040
with our tax dollars and that's just the

2656
01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:22,960
way that i feel about it i feel that

2657
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:24,719
they tried to use

2658
01:53:28,149 --> 01:53:27,040
tom delong's influence for crowdfunding

2659
01:53:31,750 --> 01:53:28,159
and it didn't work

2660
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:31,760
and so they've taken it the next step

2661
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:34,400
and um you know they've turned up the

2662
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,440
harry reid and

2663
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:37,520
and the release of these videos and all

2664
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:39,040
this other stuff to

2665
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:41,040
you know to get these hearings that they

2666
01:53:43,910 --> 01:53:42,400
needed to get and the funding they

2667
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:43,920
needed to get and they got it and now

2668
01:53:48,550 --> 01:53:46,000
they're all happy and then

2669
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,560
the rest of the country get to chew on

2670
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:50,719
this unidentified series that

2671
01:53:54,229 --> 01:53:52,480
really looks good to people that don't

2672
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:54,239
know any better and

2673
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:56,159
even to people that it that do know

2674
01:54:02,870 --> 01:53:57,920
better it still looks good

2675
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:02,880
so chase the tale we continue to do

2676
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:06,080
until you know somebody comes along with

2677
01:54:11,030 --> 01:54:08,000
a shovel and slaps us

2678
01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:11,040
yeah yeah yeah here we go again and

2679
01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:15,520
when the uh when the chatter started

2680
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:18,400
last month and and you know i was part

2681
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:19,119
of it i was

2682
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:21,440
i was chattering along with everybody

2683
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:22,560
else and

2684
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:24,880
chatting this thing up about uh the

2685
01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:26,159
impending

2686
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:29,440
articles that were about to uh come out

2687
01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:31,679
on the new york times well

2688
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:34,480
uh your first reaction because i want to

2689
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:36,080
talk about the retractions but your

2690
01:54:41,189 --> 01:54:37,840
first reaction

2691
01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:41,199
uh when you read the article from leslie

2692
01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:41,760
kane

2693
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:44,880
and ralph blumenthal uh what

2694
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:47,440
what did you think was it was it the big

2695
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:49,119
breaking story

2696
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:51,360
you know what how did you feel about it

2697
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:52,719
i didn't i was

2698
01:54:59,109 --> 01:54:56,400
i you know honestly you know in

2699
01:55:00,629 --> 01:54:59,119
i've had time to think back because i've

2700
01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:00,639
been asked this before i think you asked

2701
01:55:05,189 --> 01:55:02,480
me this last time i was on the show

2702
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:05,199
a couple of weeks ago john greenwald

2703
01:55:08,629 --> 01:55:05,760
whom

2704
01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:08,639
i greatly respect uh great show by the

2705
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:10,159
way with him you had

2706
01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:14,000
um i i honestly look back and i wonder

2707
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:16,239
what all the hype was about why would

2708
01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:19,520
why were they hyping the story

2709
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:21,199
if this is what we were going to get

2710
01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:22,719
right

2711
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:24,560
that's what i that's what i remember

2712
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:26,719
thinking that's what i remember

2713
01:55:35,510 --> 01:55:30,320
off the top just being very displeased

2714
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:35,520
and uh thinking it was very unremarkable

2715
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:39,280
the uh the media around the world

2716
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:41,840
uh picked up on the story immediately uh

2717
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,960
the government

2718
01:55:46,870 --> 01:55:44,560
united states government's got crash

2719
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,880
flying saucers right you got harry reid

2720
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:48,159
stating that and

2721
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:51,520
you've got dr eric davis uh showing up

2722
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:52,239
once again

2723
01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:54,960
stating uh this and that's what the

2724
01:55:59,189 --> 01:55:56,000
media ran

2725
01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:59,199
with and nobody did any fact checking

2726
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:01,119
it's the new york times you don't need

2727
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:02,960
to fact check new york times already

2728
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:03,760
vetted

2729
01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:05,520
all of these quotes and sources and

2730
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:07,679
things and so the article's got to be

2731
01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:10,480
legit so they run with it and it's

2732
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:11,599
everywhere

2733
01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:14,239
and it's shared and talked about and and

2734
01:56:18,550 --> 01:56:14,639
things

2735
01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:18,560
and then the next day retractions

2736
01:56:26,830 --> 01:56:22,719
from the same story what did you make of

2737
01:56:31,589 --> 01:56:28,790
well

2738
01:56:32,070 --> 01:56:31,599
i i didn't really take a lot from it i

2739
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:32,080
mean it

2740
01:56:38,629 --> 01:56:35,360
it essentially said the same thing

2741
01:56:39,430 --> 01:56:38,639
to me to me because you know jimmy when

2742
01:56:42,310 --> 01:56:39,440
you and i

2743
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:42,320
take when we have a conversation off the

2744
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:44,080
record you know and we're talking

2745
01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:47,280
off the record uh and we have these

2746
01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:48,880
conversations where we say

2747
01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:52,080
things you know in a certain way

2748
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:54,880
and then they go on the record with what

2749
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:55,199
we

2750
01:56:59,669 --> 01:56:58,480
say um you know i've had this happen

2751
01:57:02,790 --> 01:56:59,679
before

2752
01:57:05,830 --> 01:57:02,800
several times been taken out of context

2753
01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:05,840
just by one word by one word can

2754
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:08,320
can change the whole damn game the whole

2755
01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:09,280
thing

2756
01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:12,800
and i just i think that you know

2757
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,280
when reed said in the article that he

2758
01:57:19,990 --> 01:57:17,440
believed that crashed

2759
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:20,000
vehicles from other worlds had occurred

2760
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:22,080
and that sort of parts or whatever from

2761
01:57:24,709 --> 01:57:22,719
them

2762
01:57:26,629 --> 01:57:24,719
had been collected and studied for

2763
01:57:28,629 --> 01:57:26,639
decades

2764
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:28,639
when i read the part about aerospace

2765
01:57:31,669 --> 01:57:30,400
companies you know often by aerospace

2766
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:31,679
companies or whatever i'm thinking

2767
01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:33,599
bigelow right i was thinking about

2768
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,880
his old pal out there in nevada and

2769
01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:39,119
and then the retraction comes and

2770
01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:40,719
nothing in that retraction

2771
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:43,920
really changed that it it

2772
01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:46,960
you know the retraction was

2773
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:51,440
he believed that crashes of objects

2774
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:54,719
of unknown origin may have occurred i

2775
01:57:58,870 --> 01:57:55,599
think it said

2776
01:58:01,430 --> 01:57:58,880
i remember him saying them saying may

2777
01:58:03,910 --> 01:58:01,440
have occurred that that's what he said

2778
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:03,920
but you know that part was sort of a big

2779
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:05,440
difference but it didn't really change

2780
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:06,000
the quote

2781
01:58:12,310 --> 01:58:09,199
right the man believes

2782
01:58:13,910 --> 01:58:12,320
he believes that crashes have happened

2783
01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:13,920
and that parts of that stuff

2784
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:16,480
have been collected and studied when you

2785
01:58:20,229 --> 01:58:17,599
go back to

2786
01:58:22,629 --> 01:58:20,239
the ufo disclosure projects there are

2787
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:22,639
brigadier generals who said

2788
01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:25,440
that they were handed this material to

2789
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:26,320
look at

2790
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:29,840
this is material from a ufo

2791
01:58:36,390 --> 01:58:32,880
literally we've got military officials

2792
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:36,400
generals on the record kernels on the

2793
01:58:38,950 --> 01:58:37,199
record

2794
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:38,960
that have held this stuff in their hands

2795
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:40,480
or they've seen it or

2796
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:44,239
opened a file cabinet and seen it um

2797
01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:46,960
crates and seen it guarded this stuff

2798
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:48,000
and seen it

2799
01:58:54,790 --> 01:58:51,119
so i i tend to think

2800
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:54,800
that that reed honestly said

2801
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:57,599
that and that he meant that and he still

2802
01:59:02,870 --> 01:58:58,639
means it

2803
01:59:04,149 --> 01:59:02,880
but it's not the it's not the spooky

2804
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:04,159
sort of narrative that

2805
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:07,199
that one can can derive from it

2806
01:59:11,350 --> 01:59:10,080
and walking this subject walk i mean

2807
01:59:13,270 --> 01:59:11,360
walking this

2808
01:59:15,990 --> 01:59:13,280
this wording and this verbage sort of

2809
01:59:18,070 --> 01:59:16,000
back by the new york times i think it

2810
01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:18,080
could very well just be

2811
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:21,760
a small mistake made by the writers

2812
01:59:26,390 --> 01:59:25,440
and and it was just a a very large

2813
01:59:29,589 --> 01:59:26,400
correction that

2814
01:59:31,910 --> 01:59:29,599
they intended to make but really

2815
01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:31,920
didn't mount a whole lot it didn't

2816
01:59:37,030 --> 01:59:33,760
amount a whole lot to me i should say

2817
01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:37,040
well it it doesn't it doesn't

2818
01:59:42,470 --> 01:59:40,400
matter once the rest of the media around

2819
01:59:44,870 --> 01:59:42,480
the world picks up on the story

2820
01:59:47,030 --> 01:59:44,880
with the headlines that the united

2821
01:59:50,950 --> 01:59:47,040
states government is in possession

2822
01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:50,960
of vehicles from off-world ufos

2823
01:59:54,149 --> 01:59:53,360
that have crashed that's the headline

2824
01:59:56,830 --> 01:59:54,159
that they ran

2825
01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:56,840
with but that's not what he said that's

2826
02:00:01,750 --> 01:59:58,960
right that's not what they wrote

2827
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:01,760
initially and it's not what was in the

2828
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:04,960
in the redaction right and and that's

2829
02:00:08,950 --> 02:00:05,760
how you get

2830
02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:08,960
disinformation out into the public and

2831
02:00:13,350 --> 02:00:11,920
that's it and and once the headlines are

2832
02:00:16,229 --> 02:00:13,360
out there

2833
02:00:17,270 --> 02:00:16,239
then it becomes fact that's it it

2834
02:00:19,109 --> 02:00:17,280
becomes fact

2835
02:00:21,430 --> 02:00:19,119
you know harry reid you know the the

2836
02:00:22,229 --> 02:00:21,440
retraction was that harry reid didn't

2837
02:00:25,030 --> 02:00:22,239
say

2838
02:00:25,589 --> 02:00:25,040
crashes of vehicles from other worlds

2839
02:00:28,950 --> 02:00:25,599
had

2840
02:00:29,350 --> 02:00:28,960
occurred but the retraction is crashes

2841
02:00:32,709 --> 02:00:29,360
of

2842
02:00:36,229 --> 02:00:32,719
objects not vehicles right

2843
02:00:39,910 --> 02:00:36,239
crashes of objects of unknown origin

2844
02:00:40,709 --> 02:00:39,920
may have occurred yes it may i remember

2845
02:00:43,510 --> 02:00:40,719
that right

2846
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:43,520
it's 180 degrees in the other direction

2847
02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:44,080
you know

2848
02:00:47,589 --> 02:00:45,920
and and there you go so let's take our

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break right here race we got to get this

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in this is fade to black i'm yours jimmy

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church

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tonight it is host to host with raise

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hobbs all ufos all night long

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except for the gaming that we talked

2855
02:01:00,870 --> 02:00:59,599
about earlier

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we'll be right back after this short

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break stay with us

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this is made to black make contact

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welcome back fade to black i'm real

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jimmy church tonight race hops

2961
02:06:03,750 --> 02:05:58,790
one day i'm gonna grow up and have pipes

2962
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:03,760
like racehobs that's my goal

2963
02:06:08,390 --> 02:06:07,199
and uh continuing on uh with this

2964
02:06:11,589 --> 02:06:08,400
conversation

2965
02:06:14,629 --> 02:06:11,599
going back uh to the old days and

2966
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:14,639
how this is now resurfacing too as well

2967
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:16,560
because of uh

2968
02:06:19,990 --> 02:06:19,599
the the the wilson davis document and

2969
02:06:23,109 --> 02:06:20,000
the

2970
02:06:27,350 --> 02:06:23,119
uh two extra pages uh that followed

2971
02:06:30,790 --> 02:06:27,360
uh this which is the alien autopsy film

2972
02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:30,800
and again to all of

2973
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:33,920
the people out there that are new to the

2974
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:35,280
ufo community

2975
02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:38,000
that didn't go through what the ufo

2976
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:39,679
community went through

2977
02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:42,800
with the alien autopsy film that

2978
02:06:50,229 --> 02:06:46,480
thing was huge

2979
02:06:52,790 --> 02:06:50,239
huge broadcasts around the world live

2980
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:52,800
videotapes i bought that thing for like

2981
02:06:56,310 --> 02:06:54,239
70 bucks

2982
02:06:57,430 --> 02:06:56,320
tower records whatever i paid for it on

2983
02:07:00,550 --> 02:06:57,440
pre-order

2984
02:07:02,310 --> 02:07:00,560
had a party at my house race had a party

2985
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:02,320
at my house got the video invited my

2986
02:07:07,109 --> 02:07:03,520
friends over

2987
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:07,119
pizza and we all said yeah we did man we

2988
02:07:11,830 --> 02:07:09,040
did and we watched it

2989
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:11,840
and as we're getting through i i was

2990
02:07:15,430 --> 02:07:12,960
looking around

2991
02:07:17,109 --> 02:07:15,440
and everybody in the room was thinking

2992
02:07:20,149 --> 02:07:17,119
the same thing

2993
02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:20,159
this is bogus right this

2994
02:07:25,109 --> 02:07:23,199
this this thing ain't real and and

2995
02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:25,119
you've got stan winston on the screen

2996
02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:26,400
going well you know i don't know how

2997
02:07:29,589 --> 02:07:27,599
they would have done that and

2998
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:29,599
you know the most respected special

2999
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:31,679
effects guy in hollywood

3000
02:07:37,990 --> 02:07:35,360
and uh and everything else uh that was

3001
02:07:40,149 --> 02:07:38,000
centered around that and now it's

3002
02:07:43,910 --> 02:07:40,159
resurfacing again

3003
02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:43,920
and we've got uh the same group of

3004
02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:46,159
of people involved in this conversation

3005
02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:48,239
about the alien autopsy film

3006
02:07:56,390 --> 02:07:52,480
about it about it being real and

3007
02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:56,400
i okay let's actually let's start

3008
02:08:01,990 --> 02:07:59,679
at the beginning here when you first saw

3009
02:08:03,030 --> 02:08:02,000
the alien autopsy film what went through

3010
02:08:09,270 --> 02:08:03,040
your mind

3011
02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:09,280
i thought it was real you did not

3012
02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:12,079
you know me buddy honestly i watched

3013
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:12,960
this thing like

3014
02:08:20,390 --> 02:08:16,239
40 times up close

3015
02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:20,400
rewind slo-mo frame by frame

3016
02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:22,320
you know i'm going and checking the

3017
02:08:26,229 --> 02:08:24,159
clock the model of the

3018
02:08:27,669 --> 02:08:26,239
the clock on the wall that you know the

3019
02:08:29,669 --> 02:08:27,679
youth the the

3020
02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:29,679
surgical utensils they were using the

3021
02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:31,040
trays

3022
02:08:35,350 --> 02:08:34,320
um the sort of the scrubs that they had

3023
02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:35,360
on that kind of thing

3024
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:38,480
i went took screenshots of all of this

3025
02:08:43,430 --> 02:08:39,280
stuff

3026
02:08:46,149 --> 02:08:43,440
and um sort of started to research

3027
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:46,159
you know if all of this was authentic

3028
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:46,880
and it all

3029
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:50,239
was and i'm like waiter this can't

3030
02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:52,400
be you know this is just just can't be

3031
02:08:57,669 --> 02:08:53,920
that well made

3032
02:09:00,629 --> 02:08:57,679
but i don't like how it was shot

3033
02:09:02,550 --> 02:09:00,639
and i started thinking about um i

3034
02:09:04,870 --> 02:09:02,560
started thinking a little bit about

3035
02:09:06,390 --> 02:09:04,880
the you know the the funeral home guy

3036
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,400
forget his name now

3037
02:09:09,669 --> 02:09:08,800
in roswell how he talked about being on

3038
02:09:13,669 --> 02:09:09,679
the base and

3039
02:09:16,149 --> 02:09:13,679
and what it how it was chaotic and

3040
02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:16,159
how his friend the nurse came you know

3041
02:09:19,669 --> 02:09:18,159
storming out of the place and

3042
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:19,679
what my god what are you doing here you

3043
02:09:22,629 --> 02:09:20,880
got to get out of here and blah blah

3044
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:22,639
blah yadda yadda and

3045
02:09:25,910 --> 02:09:24,400
that whole thing and you know i started

3046
02:09:27,750 --> 02:09:25,920
thinking well

3047
02:09:29,750 --> 02:09:27,760
maybe it was shot that way because it

3048
02:09:32,629 --> 02:09:29,760
was a chaotic situation

3049
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:32,639
but then i started thinking no they're

3050
02:09:35,910 --> 02:09:34,800
not going to be performing a freaking

3051
02:09:39,030 --> 02:09:35,920
autopsy

3052
02:09:41,589 --> 02:09:39,040
in that chaotic situation

3053
02:09:43,830 --> 02:09:41,599
it's not gonna you know so all of this

3054
02:09:45,270 --> 02:09:43,840
happened within just a few moments but

3055
02:09:49,189 --> 02:09:45,280
it seemed like it took

3056
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:49,199
um a long time

3057
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:52,320
it seemed like it took a while but i

3058
02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:54,800
thought at first initially whenever i

3059
02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:56,239
started to find that the clock was

3060
02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:56,800
authentic

3061
02:10:00,149 --> 02:09:59,119
in the time frame and and you know and

3062
02:10:01,669 --> 02:10:00,159
these sort of things

3063
02:10:03,270 --> 02:10:01,679
i started to think you know this is

3064
02:10:07,109 --> 02:10:03,280
either a well-made hoax

3065
02:10:09,189 --> 02:10:07,119
or it's it's real and um

3066
02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:09,199
but of course you know all of us know

3067
02:10:14,069 --> 02:10:11,280
now that it wasn't real

3068
02:10:16,229 --> 02:10:14,079
that those that made it came forward

3069
02:10:18,229 --> 02:10:16,239
told how it was made and why they made

3070
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:18,239
it and those involved and the whole

3071
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:20,320
thing so

3072
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:23,520
yeah i'm sorry i took for 70 dollars

3073
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:25,840
though you'll never get that 70 back

3074
02:10:29,830 --> 02:10:28,800
man man man i was so upset i was so

3075
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:29,840
upset

3076
02:10:33,589 --> 02:10:32,079
it was that's like a blair witch thing

3077
02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:33,599
you know to be like

3078
02:10:38,069 --> 02:10:35,520
i thought that was real at first you

3079
02:10:41,589 --> 02:10:38,079
know i'm gonna be straight with erase

3080
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:41,599
um i had uh i had a cabinet

3081
02:10:49,430 --> 02:10:45,280
uh in my living room full of videotapes

3082
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:49,440
right that everybody had right i had and

3083
02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:53,280
after i watched it that first night

3084
02:10:57,189 --> 02:10:55,440
i went back and maybe watched it a

3085
02:10:59,589 --> 02:10:57,199
couple of times that week

3086
02:11:00,629 --> 02:10:59,599
that thing hit the shelf and was never

3087
02:11:02,790 --> 02:11:00,639
watched again

3088
02:11:04,709 --> 02:11:02,800
and i would go through and every time i

3089
02:11:05,589 --> 02:11:04,719
would go through my videos and pick

3090
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:05,599
something out

3091
02:11:09,109 --> 02:11:08,480
and i would see that i would get angry i

3092
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:09,119
would be

3093
02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:17,350
i got played man i got played and

3094
02:11:24,229 --> 02:11:22,400
here the subject here we are in 2020

3095
02:11:27,109 --> 02:11:24,239
talking about the authenticity of the

3096
02:11:27,669 --> 02:11:27,119
alien alien autopsy film and the fact

3097
02:11:30,790 --> 02:11:27,679
that

3098
02:11:34,790 --> 02:11:30,800
kit green and and his

3099
02:11:38,470 --> 02:11:34,800
circle were actually talking about this

3100
02:11:41,350 --> 02:11:38,480
film being authentic and

3101
02:11:43,030 --> 02:11:41,360
we're in 2020 discussing the alien

3102
02:11:45,510 --> 02:11:43,040
autopsy film

3103
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:45,520
i i don't know what's going on i really

3104
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:46,159
do i

3105
02:11:52,069 --> 02:11:49,679
i have no clue how this community can

3106
02:11:53,189 --> 02:11:52,079
circle back and and start this

3107
02:11:56,709 --> 02:11:53,199
discussion again

3108
02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:56,719
about the alien autopsy film a hoaxed

3109
02:12:02,870 --> 02:11:59,760
film made for profit

3110
02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:02,880
right and what's going on race

3111
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:05,440
let's get kit green on here and find out

3112
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:06,960
exactly what was said

3113
02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:10,400
well yeah i think you know he talks to

3114
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:11,440
richard dolan but

3115
02:12:15,109 --> 02:12:13,280
he doesn't talk to really nobody else on

3116
02:12:17,030 --> 02:12:15,119
the record so no he

3117
02:12:18,790 --> 02:12:17,040
that that whole crew would never come on

3118
02:12:22,149 --> 02:12:18,800
this show

3119
02:12:24,629 --> 02:12:22,159
yeah let's get ol on here you know

3120
02:12:25,189 --> 02:12:24,639
russell targ does interviews yeah yeah

3121
02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:25,199
and

3122
02:12:33,350 --> 02:12:30,320
you know but why won't they

3123
02:12:36,790 --> 02:12:33,360
well uh you know

3124
02:12:39,030 --> 02:12:36,800
spook bill well when payroll

3125
02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:39,040
and they know it and they can't afford

3126
02:12:41,910 --> 02:12:41,280
to make a mistake on the record because

3127
02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:41,920
it could

3128
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:45,119
end multi-million dollar contracts for

3129
02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:45,920
them

3130
02:12:50,950 --> 02:12:49,360
it could void you know it could avoid

3131
02:12:53,350 --> 02:12:50,960
the kind of money

3132
02:12:54,950 --> 02:12:53,360
that it takes to live and high on the

3133
02:12:57,669 --> 02:12:54,960
hill you know what i mean and

3134
02:12:58,229 --> 02:12:57,679
uh they don't want to go that route why

3135
02:13:01,750 --> 02:12:58,239
is it

3136
02:13:05,990 --> 02:13:01,760
race that you know when somebody like

3137
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:06,000
dr eric davis uh his employer is named

3138
02:13:09,910 --> 02:13:07,599
aerospace corporation

3139
02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:09,920
in this new york times article where he

3140
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:11,920
is quoted as saying he

3141
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:15,280
he gave briefings twice

3142
02:13:20,149 --> 02:13:17,840
to the senate telling them that we had

3143
02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:20,159
crash flying saucers

3144
02:13:27,189 --> 02:13:23,679
why isn't uh every journalist

3145
02:13:30,229 --> 02:13:27,199
on this planet going after eric

3146
02:13:33,350 --> 02:13:30,239
to expand on these quotes and

3147
02:13:35,990 --> 02:13:33,360
to bring forward the proof

3148
02:13:38,149 --> 02:13:36,000
to back up these statements why does he

3149
02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:38,159
get a hall pass right now

3150
02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:41,840
well let's go back to the article uh

3151
02:13:48,310 --> 02:13:44,960
about senator reid that was uh

3152
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:48,320
in the new york magazine you know

3153
02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:51,360
that in that article he admitted that he

3154
02:13:54,149 --> 02:13:51,679
had

3155
02:13:55,910 --> 02:13:54,159
never been briefed oh he got the 22

3156
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:55,920
million dollars for at

3157
02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:58,800
he got the 22 million dollars for this

3158
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:59,280
uh

3159
02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:00,800
you know this group to go out and

3160
02:14:06,629 --> 02:14:03,280
research ufos but he never

3161
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:06,639
got briefed i mean

3162
02:14:14,149 --> 02:14:12,000
uh his response was it's not my style to

3163
02:14:15,589 --> 02:14:14,159
kind of hover over these people you know

3164
02:14:17,430 --> 02:14:15,599
what i mean i just get them the money

3165
02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:17,440
and then let them go you know just

3166
02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:20,880
it's just jimmy's tax bill for the next

3167
02:14:27,109 --> 02:14:24,639
50 years um but why does eric davis get

3168
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:27,119
a hall pass i just think that he gets a

3169
02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:29,040
hall pass because he's a part of the

3170
02:14:33,430 --> 02:14:29,840
narrative

3171
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:33,440
that group

3172
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:37,280
he's a part of that whole

3173
02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:40,000
and has been now these are brilliant

3174
02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:40,560
people

3175
02:14:43,750 --> 02:14:43,360
and they do brilliant work i'm certain

3176
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:43,760
and

3177
02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:45,679
this is just my opinion of course but i

3178
02:14:50,950 --> 02:14:47,599
just feel like he's a part of that

3179
02:14:54,470 --> 02:14:50,960
group that just in this time

3180
02:14:56,790 --> 02:14:54,480
is controlling the narrative and uh

3181
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:56,800
you know and i you know i keep hearing

3182
02:15:04,550 --> 02:14:57,920
about

3183
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:04,560
uh kitt green i keep hearing his name

3184
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:06,719
and i keep hearing how puthol's name and

3185
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:09,199
and you know but we never see him

3186
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:11,840
we never hear from him they never go on

3187
02:15:17,030 --> 02:15:13,840
the record and they're never willing to

3188
02:15:19,589 --> 02:15:17,040
to be questioned by media

3189
02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:19,599
uh out in the light of day and eric

3190
02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:21,280
davis even

3191
02:15:24,709 --> 02:15:23,760
uh very few interviews has he ever been

3192
02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:24,719
a part of

3193
02:15:30,229 --> 02:15:28,639
um and you know he i think he was in

3194
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:30,239
mirageman that was the last time i think

3195
02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:32,079
i've ever seen him on the record with

3196
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:33,280
anything

3197
02:15:37,189 --> 02:15:36,800
um but even that is just a recorded

3198
02:15:40,310 --> 02:15:37,199
thing

3199
02:15:42,229 --> 02:15:40,320
and not live you know so

3200
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:42,239
i i don't know why he gets a hall pass

3201
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:43,920
other than he's a part of that

3202
02:15:50,950 --> 02:15:47,280
that that counterintelligence group

3203
02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:50,960
that does what they do to control the

3204
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:51,679
narrative

3205
02:15:57,990 --> 02:15:54,880
to all of us do you think

3206
02:16:00,950 --> 02:15:58,000
that we will see uh

3207
02:16:02,629 --> 02:16:00,960
additional videos out of the pentagon or

3208
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:02,639
is that door closed

3209
02:16:05,990 --> 02:16:04,480
no i think they're coming i think

3210
02:16:08,229 --> 02:16:06,000
there's more coming

3211
02:16:10,390 --> 02:16:08,239
i remember back when i did uh my own

3212
02:16:12,790 --> 02:16:10,400
radio show well

3213
02:16:15,189 --> 02:16:12,800
when i did eyewitness radio and mufon

3214
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:15,199
radio for the mutual ufo network

3215
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:17,920
i talked with uh you know poseidon

3216
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:18,880
pilots and

3217
02:16:25,750 --> 02:16:22,079
uh you know many navy pilots that

3218
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:25,760
um told me on and off the record about

3219
02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:28,560
these tapes about these videos but you

3220
02:16:33,830 --> 02:16:30,400
know what i want to see

3221
02:16:37,270 --> 02:16:33,840
i want to see the video

3222
02:16:39,509 --> 02:16:37,280
that astronaut gordon cooper's team took

3223
02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:39,519
on the dry lake bed out there when they

3224
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:41,200
were testing catapults on the

3225
02:16:48,790 --> 02:16:44,719
the runway i believe

3226
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:48,800
what he said was true an american hero

3227
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:51,760
fulling out you know he was a part of

3228
02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:53,519
lee spiegel's crew

3229
02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:57,439
that went before the united nations with

3230
02:17:02,230 --> 02:17:00,719
valet and many others i think gordon

3231
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:02,240
cooper was telling the truth

3232
02:17:05,429 --> 02:17:04,960
he you know when he when he was asked

3233
02:17:07,589 --> 02:17:05,439
you know

3234
02:17:09,509 --> 02:17:07,599
why didn't you check on this tape where

3235
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:09,519
it went what's going on with it

3236
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:13,040
and he just simply look at you and say

3237
02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:16,080
who do you ask who

3238
02:17:21,830 --> 02:17:19,439
who do you who are you gonna ask when i

3239
02:17:22,309 --> 02:17:21,840
talk to a naval submarine commander

3240
02:17:26,309 --> 02:17:22,319
about

3241
02:17:29,429 --> 02:17:26,319
hearing

3242
02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:29,439
that you know there are objects that uh

3243
02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:32,639
um you know are they're moving

3244
02:17:37,349 --> 02:17:35,280
faster underwater than than we ever

3245
02:17:39,990 --> 02:17:37,359
thought possible let's just say

3246
02:17:41,669 --> 02:17:40,000
um when they report this up the chain of

3247
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:41,679
command that's a one-way

3248
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:43,840
doorway that it goes through it doesn't

3249
02:17:48,629 --> 02:17:45,920
come back down the chain of command

3250
02:17:49,509 --> 02:17:48,639
and to let everybody know what they saw

3251
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:49,519
or what they

3252
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:52,639
recorded on radar you know you're in a

3253
02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,920
metal tube

3254
02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:55,760
you know a thousand leagues under the

3255
02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:57,359
sea and

3256
02:18:00,790 --> 02:17:59,760
um something blows by you like you're in

3257
02:18:02,309 --> 02:18:00,800
reverse

3258
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:02,319
and you didn't know that anything could

3259
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:04,319
go that fast underwater but yet

3260
02:18:08,469 --> 02:18:06,319
you tell your superiors about it and

3261
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:08,479
they don't tell you anything back

3262
02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:10,319
that's just the way that it works that's

3263
02:18:17,830 --> 02:18:13,200
how that works it all goes somewhere

3264
02:18:20,950 --> 02:18:17,840
and it's all collected somewhere um

3265
02:18:23,190 --> 02:18:20,960
uh sergeant salter he worked for the nro

3266
02:18:24,070 --> 02:18:23,200
he's in the disclosure project listen to

3267
02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:24,080
his testimony

3268
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:27,840
about where all that stuff goes um

3269
02:18:31,429 --> 02:18:29,359
i think that there's a central

3270
02:18:34,230 --> 02:18:31,439
collection agency

3271
02:18:35,589 --> 02:18:34,240
for all of this information and they

3272
02:18:37,509 --> 02:18:35,599
disperse it

3273
02:18:39,429 --> 02:18:37,519
where they want it dispersed to whom

3274
02:18:42,469 --> 02:18:39,439
they want it dispersed

3275
02:18:44,469 --> 02:18:42,479
even if that means jimmy in my opinion

3276
02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:44,479
that they give this stuff to brigadier

3277
02:18:46,870 --> 02:18:46,240
generals to hold in their hand and to

3278
02:18:49,750 --> 02:18:46,880
look at

3279
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:49,760
and to show uh you know a couple of

3280
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:51,519
their close friends or whatever

3281
02:18:58,950 --> 02:18:54,639
so that there's a record of that in

3282
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:58,960
happening at some point in time um

3283
02:19:02,629 --> 02:19:00,639
you know then you have people of

3284
02:19:04,870 --> 02:19:02,639
credible of a credible nature

3285
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:04,880
saying i've held it in my hands and this

3286
02:19:10,870 --> 02:19:06,639
stuff was from another world

3287
02:19:14,629 --> 02:19:10,880
here we are again in 2020 talking about

3288
02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:14,639
metals that are supposedly

3289
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:18,240
from ufos from uaps

3290
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:21,040
from uh intelligently controlled

3291
02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:22,960
off-world vehicles

3292
02:19:26,230 --> 02:19:24,800
that couldn't have been manufactured

3293
02:19:30,070 --> 02:19:26,240
here on earth

3294
02:19:34,230 --> 02:19:30,080
are in our hands again

3295
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:34,240
again and and that is for me

3296
02:19:40,790 --> 02:19:37,519
that is different than crashed

3297
02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:40,800
flying saucers right off-world

3298
02:19:47,110 --> 02:19:43,840
vehicles not melted

3299
02:19:48,630 --> 02:19:47,120
you know droplets of of something that

3300
02:19:51,190 --> 02:19:48,640
we're trying to

3301
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:51,200
figure out what the composition is

3302
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:53,680
that's another subject altogether

3303
02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:56,960
a crashed off-world vehicle

3304
02:20:00,150 --> 02:19:59,680
states something is complete right we

3305
02:20:02,710 --> 02:20:00,160
don't know

3306
02:20:03,590 --> 02:20:02,720
yeah we don't need to analyze the seat

3307
02:20:07,510 --> 02:20:03,600
or the

3308
02:20:09,990 --> 02:20:07,520
the dashboard we know that's off planet

3309
02:20:11,910 --> 02:20:10,000
it's it's it's another thing altogether

3310
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:11,920
to imply

3311
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:15,200
you know a melted or you know some

3312
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:18,720
some debris that's unidentifiable sparks

3313
02:20:23,190 --> 02:20:21,040
flew off right so that's something else

3314
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:23,200
all together and when we look at

3315
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:26,080
uh the the three videos and this is what

3316
02:20:30,950 --> 02:20:26,880
i find so

3317
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:30,960
interesting is that

3318
02:20:37,270 --> 02:20:34,399
the videos show something

3319
02:20:38,710 --> 02:20:37,280
it's like the wilson davis documents

3320
02:20:41,590 --> 02:20:38,720
documents are real

3321
02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:41,600
it's the composition what's inside of it

3322
02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:42,080
that

3323
02:20:49,270 --> 02:20:45,920
is uh is of interest

3324
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:49,280
the videos are real videos no question

3325
02:20:52,550 --> 02:20:50,319
about it there's

3326
02:20:55,349 --> 02:20:52,560
something in those videos there you have

3327
02:20:59,750 --> 02:20:55,359
it but the pentagon

3328
02:21:03,190 --> 02:20:59,760
doesn't care right the pentagon does not

3329
02:21:05,429 --> 02:21:03,200
care about the content of those videos

3330
02:21:06,309 --> 02:21:05,439
when the pentagon when susan gao made

3331
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:06,319
this statement

3332
02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:08,800
and i'm gonna quote her this is word for

3333
02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:09,520
word

3334
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,040
she said quote after further review

3335
02:21:16,469 --> 02:21:15,600
the department has determined that the

3336
02:21:20,389 --> 02:21:16,479
authorized

3337
02:21:23,630 --> 02:21:20,399
release of these unclassified videos

3338
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:23,640
does not reveal any sensitive

3339
02:21:29,110 --> 02:21:25,200
capabilities or

3340
02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:29,120
systems end quote now

3341
02:21:35,510 --> 02:21:32,240
i would think race i might be

3342
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:35,520
dumb but i would think

3343
02:21:41,990 --> 02:21:38,560
that an alien

3344
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:42,000
ship caught on video

3345
02:21:46,469 --> 02:21:45,520
does show sensitive capabilities and

3346
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:46,479
systems

3347
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:50,720
right i i could be wrong i could be way

3348
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:52,240
off base maybe the

3349
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:55,120
the ufos from another uh planetary

3350
02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:55,840
system

3351
02:22:03,270 --> 02:21:59,280
flying here interstellar is insensitive

3352
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:05,510
i remember seeing one of these videos a

3353
02:22:09,510 --> 02:22:06,640
long time ago

3354
02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:09,520
yeah but but you know the the first

3355
02:22:15,429 --> 02:22:12,080
thing i noticed was that

3356
02:22:18,790 --> 02:22:15,439
the numbers and the letters were blurry

3357
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:18,800
those things were were you know you it

3358
02:22:22,950 --> 02:22:19,120
was

3359
02:22:25,910 --> 02:22:22,960
blurred out for

3360
02:22:27,349 --> 02:22:25,920
some reason and that's what makes me

3361
02:22:30,389 --> 02:22:27,359
suspicious

3362
02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:30,399
i said to uh some uh

3363
02:22:35,190 --> 02:22:33,280
researcher friends of mine early on in

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02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:35,200
the release of this is that

3365
02:22:42,309 --> 02:22:38,720
i think this just might be a clever way

3366
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:42,319
for our military industrial complex

3367
02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:44,960
to give our adversaries out there a

3368
02:22:49,349 --> 02:22:45,439
little

3369
02:22:53,349 --> 02:22:49,359
glimpse of what we really have

3370
02:22:56,309 --> 02:22:53,359
that's ours and that you know this stuff

3371
02:22:57,590 --> 02:22:56,319
is readily available and deployable now

3372
02:23:00,790 --> 02:22:57,600
and what they've been

3373
02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:00,800
seeing over their installations

3374
02:23:07,990 --> 02:23:04,880
is very well probably what we have

3375
02:23:09,910 --> 02:23:08,000
in our possession now it's a very clever

3376
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:09,920
way to let

3377
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:17,750
express this let's say in a very subtle

3378
02:23:21,590 --> 02:23:19,120
way

3379
02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:21,600
to uh to our enemies and adversaries out

3380
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:22,479
there and

3381
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:25,840
uh i just couldn't see you know i was

3382
02:23:29,030 --> 02:23:27,600
told you know ways and means they don't

3383
02:23:30,950 --> 02:23:29,040
they blur it out because they don't want

3384
02:23:34,309 --> 02:23:30,960
you to see our technology while we

3385
02:23:36,790 --> 02:23:34,319
there's nothing to see i've seen

3386
02:23:38,870 --> 02:23:36,800
[\h__\h] on top gun that looked better than

3387
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:38,880
that

3388
02:23:43,670 --> 02:23:41,439
like you know any radio intercept

3389
02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:43,680
officer that looks at a video like that

3390
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:45,280
or any fighter pilot that looks at a

3391
02:23:49,429 --> 02:23:46,960
video like that it's gonna see

3392
02:23:50,710 --> 02:23:49,439
we all have seen that that is not like

3393
02:23:53,830 --> 02:23:50,720
super

3394
02:23:56,389 --> 02:23:53,840
uh secure type stuff i mean

3395
02:23:56,870 --> 02:23:56,399
you you could they could take all of

3396
02:23:59,830 --> 02:23:56,880
that

3397
02:24:00,230 --> 02:23:59,840
data stuff out of it and just give us

3398
02:24:07,670 --> 02:24:00,240
the

3399
02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:07,680
fravor said

3400
02:24:12,870 --> 02:24:10,000
you know and what they filmed what they

3401
02:24:14,950 --> 02:24:12,880
saw and how they filmed it

3402
02:24:16,389 --> 02:24:14,960
you bring up a good point the three

3403
02:24:19,750 --> 02:24:16,399
videos

3404
02:24:22,950 --> 02:24:19,760
gimbal go fast and uh tic tac

3405
02:24:25,830 --> 02:24:22,960
t those aren't what flavor the

3406
02:24:26,710 --> 02:24:25,840
flavor has no connection to those videos

3407
02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:26,720
no

3408
02:24:35,830 --> 02:24:34,640
and they'll immediately cut to favor in

3409
02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:35,840
his interview

3410
02:24:41,030 --> 02:24:38,960
and there's your disinformation the the

3411
02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:41,040
status quo out there watching these

3412
02:24:46,950 --> 02:24:43,600
programs and fox and cnn and

3413
02:24:49,510 --> 02:24:46,960
and what have you are thinking

3414
02:24:50,469 --> 02:24:49,520
that what's in here from power of

3415
02:24:53,830 --> 02:24:50,479
suggestion

3416
02:24:56,710 --> 02:24:53,840
are ufos e.t off planet

3417
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:56,720
caught on camera and fravor is there

3418
02:25:01,270 --> 02:24:58,640
telling about his experiences

3419
02:25:02,790 --> 02:25:01,280
and that these are the videos and that's

3420
02:25:05,910 --> 02:25:02,800
what he's describing

3421
02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:05,920
right right right

3422
02:25:10,710 --> 02:25:09,040
right and uh you know i think that

3423
02:25:13,670 --> 02:25:10,720
there's a [\h__\h]

3424
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:13,680
ton of these videos that are very clear

3425
02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:14,160
and

3426
02:25:21,910 --> 02:25:20,000
i'm certain that we're gonna see more

3427
02:25:22,469 --> 02:25:21,920
but i'm not so sure we're gonna see

3428
02:25:25,110 --> 02:25:22,479
stuff

3429
02:25:25,830 --> 02:25:25,120
that clear and that that revealing do

3430
02:25:28,870 --> 02:25:25,840
you think

3431
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:28,880
that vladimir putin is watching these

3432
02:25:32,950 --> 02:25:29,680
videos

3433
02:25:36,389 --> 02:25:32,960
and freaking out and and and is scared

3434
02:25:38,230 --> 02:25:36,399
no no i don't think there's anything

3435
02:25:42,070 --> 02:25:38,240
really that scares that guy he's

3436
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:42,080
he's kind of got his ducks in a row yeah

3437
02:25:45,990 --> 02:25:44,800
which is my point you know they're not

3438
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:46,000
uh

3439
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:50,000
i i i feel that this quote from the

3440
02:25:53,910 --> 02:25:50,880
pentagon

3441
02:25:56,389 --> 02:25:53,920
is on point the videos do not reveal any

3442
02:25:58,469 --> 02:25:56,399
sensitive capabilities or systems

3443
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:58,479
and that's it the pentagon does not care

3444
02:26:02,950 --> 02:25:59,840
about these videos

3445
02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:02,960
allowing us to chatter about them

3446
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:06,399
takes the the eye off the prize

3447
02:26:09,670 --> 02:26:08,720
for the pentagon right they can do

3448
02:26:12,550 --> 02:26:09,680
whatever they wanted

3449
02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:12,560
as long as we're out here and the new

3450
02:26:17,270 --> 02:26:15,280
york times and and tucker carlson

3451
02:26:18,630 --> 02:26:17,280
is talking about these videos that's

3452
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:18,640
right they get the

3453
02:26:22,469 --> 02:26:21,680
they get the hall pass and there's your

3454
02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:22,479
answer

3455
02:26:27,270 --> 02:26:25,680
mr pixley right there he's what makes

3456
02:26:28,070 --> 02:26:27,280
you think that we're gonna see more

3457
02:26:30,389 --> 02:26:28,080
videos

3458
02:26:31,990 --> 02:26:30,399
and that's exactly what makes me think

3459
02:26:33,830 --> 02:26:32,000
they're gonna that we're gonna see more

3460
02:26:35,030 --> 02:26:33,840
and they're gonna release some more

3461
02:26:38,550 --> 02:26:35,040
because they saw how

3462
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:38,560
effective it has been right uh for

3463
02:26:43,190 --> 02:26:41,680
you know for them and and you know with

3464
02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:43,200
all of us

3465
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:45,280
there was another statement race and by

3466
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:46,319
the way you're going to stay

3467
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:48,800
uh over for overtime so if you think

3468
02:26:53,270 --> 02:26:50,640
that uh you're gonna get out of this

3469
02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:53,280
uh right now after the break you're not

3470
02:26:57,830 --> 02:26:54,720
so stay comfortable

3471
02:26:59,349 --> 02:26:57,840
but there's a another interesting thing

3472
02:27:00,550 --> 02:26:59,359
for the pentagon to come out and say

3473
02:27:02,550 --> 02:27:00,560
they're

3474
02:27:03,670 --> 02:27:02,560
that we don't have any longer versions

3475
02:27:06,389 --> 02:27:03,680
of these videos

3476
02:27:08,150 --> 02:27:06,399
there's nothing else to see [\h__\h]

3477
02:27:11,349 --> 02:27:08,160
yeah right

3478
02:27:14,950 --> 02:27:14,630
you're in bleep central now remember

3479
02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:14,960
this

3480
02:27:18,070 --> 02:27:17,200
is a family program i'm gonna get my

3481
02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:18,080
pony

3482
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:21,600
sure um

3483
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:23,600
a big shout out to gene vettel by the

3484
02:27:28,469 --> 02:27:26,160
way he's out of the hospital and

3485
02:27:30,230 --> 02:27:28,479
and uh o.g fade or not and i know he's

3486
02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:30,240
listening right now gene and

3487
02:27:33,590 --> 02:27:33,040
and i'm glad that you're on the mend but

3488
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:33,600
what

3489
02:27:40,230 --> 02:27:36,800
is in front of and after these short

3490
02:27:43,670 --> 02:27:40,240
clips could reveal everything and just

3491
02:27:46,309 --> 02:27:43,680
just you know sink this but

3492
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:46,319
you know what i mean yeah but they're

3493
02:27:49,110 --> 02:27:47,520
not going to release that

3494
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:49,120
and for them to say that they don't have

3495
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:50,560
longer videos

3496
02:27:55,190 --> 02:27:53,680
i think that is a very strong untruth

3497
02:27:58,790 --> 02:27:55,200
right there they're not they're not

3498
02:28:00,870 --> 02:27:58,800
being straight with us

3499
02:28:01,990 --> 02:28:00,880
no and i just don't think there's any

3500
02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:02,000
walking that

3501
02:28:07,750 --> 02:28:04,160
back and that kind of thing is what you

3502
02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:07,760
know when they're so swift to redact

3503
02:28:14,469 --> 02:28:10,960
uh a simple comment by

3504
02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:14,479
a former senate well you know

3505
02:28:17,910 --> 02:28:16,240
one of the funniest things you'll ever

3506
02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:17,920
hear is senate

3507
02:28:23,910 --> 02:28:20,960
intelligence committee

3508
02:28:25,429 --> 02:28:23,920
you know for me and i had to throw that

3509
02:28:27,270 --> 02:28:25,439
in there jimmy yeah but

3510
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:27,280
here the senate head of senate

3511
02:28:29,670 --> 02:28:28,800
intelligence committee had to be

3512
02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:29,680
redacted

3513
02:28:37,429 --> 02:28:34,240
the next day uh had to be

3514
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:37,439
retracted i'm sorry not redacted but

3515
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:38,560
retracted

3516
02:28:45,670 --> 02:28:42,160
uh the next day yeah you know it kind of

3517
02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:45,680
it's self-explanatory i think let's take

3518
02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:47,680
our break right here race you stay right

3519
02:28:49,910 --> 02:28:49,600
there we've got lots more to talk about

3520
02:28:51,910 --> 02:28:49,920
this

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is fade to black i am your host jimmy

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3636
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welcome back bay to black i'm heroes

3637
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jimmy church tonight host to host

3638
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race hobbes doing some overtime

3639
02:34:20,469 --> 02:34:18,560
so much to talk about tonight i knew

3640
02:34:22,230 --> 02:34:20,479
we'd run out of time

3641
02:34:24,389 --> 02:34:22,240
we don't get a chance to sit down with

3642
02:34:26,150 --> 02:34:24,399
you race and just open it up man and let

3643
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:26,160
her rip

3644
02:34:31,110 --> 02:34:30,160
it's always a it's always you know i

3645
02:34:33,270 --> 02:34:31,120
remember

3646
02:34:35,270 --> 02:34:33,280
when i first went on live radio with

3647
02:34:37,270 --> 02:34:35,280
talk radio

3648
02:34:39,910 --> 02:34:37,280
jimmy i thought it was going to take

3649
02:34:42,630 --> 02:34:39,920
ever to go through two hours forever

3650
02:34:44,389 --> 02:34:42,640
and it goes by so fast especially when

3651
02:34:46,150 --> 02:34:44,399
we're talking about stuff

3652
02:34:48,790 --> 02:34:46,160
that we're truly passionate about and

3653
02:34:51,110 --> 02:34:48,800
that we're so involved in

3654
02:34:52,070 --> 02:34:51,120
and um it's always a great honor and a

3655
02:34:55,190 --> 02:34:52,080
great pleasure to be

3656
02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:55,200
on this show with you and

3657
02:34:59,590 --> 02:34:56,960
to be hanging out with all of the fader

3658
02:35:02,630 --> 02:34:59,600
knots it's just a it's a true honor

3659
02:35:06,230 --> 02:35:02,640
well let's talk uh we you brought up

3660
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:06,240
senate intelligence right and

3661
02:35:10,830 --> 02:35:08,479
let's let's actually discuss this and

3662
02:35:12,950 --> 02:35:10,840
we'll close out the show

3663
02:35:16,550 --> 02:35:12,960
because when

3664
02:35:19,910 --> 02:35:16,560
uh okay here we've got this uh

3665
02:35:22,550 --> 02:35:19,920
this defense budget that is uh needs to

3666
02:35:26,469 --> 02:35:22,560
go through every year and get past

3667
02:35:29,750 --> 02:35:26,479
that there is inside of the defense

3668
02:35:33,030 --> 02:35:29,760
budget uh this time around uh

3669
02:35:36,710 --> 02:35:33,040
a section in there to fund

3670
02:35:39,429 --> 02:35:36,720
uh pressure of getting

3671
02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:39,439
information out of and i think

3672
02:35:42,710 --> 02:35:41,520
specifically they keep saying the navy i

3673
02:35:45,429 --> 02:35:42,720
don't know why they don't

3674
02:35:46,630 --> 02:35:45,439
mention the air force or the marines uh

3675
02:35:50,230 --> 02:35:46,640
or the army

3676
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:50,240
but getting information out of them but

3677
02:35:57,270 --> 02:35:53,680
the disinformation side of this for me

3678
02:35:59,990 --> 02:35:57,280
race seems to be that

3679
02:36:00,950 --> 02:36:00,000
there are people out there without

3680
02:36:03,349 --> 02:36:00,960
naming names

3681
02:36:04,150 --> 02:36:03,359
that want the the world to think that

3682
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:04,160
this is about

3683
02:36:10,550 --> 02:36:07,439
ufos about e.t off

3684
02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:10,560
planet intelligent civilizations

3685
02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:14,800
they want us to believe that is it

3686
02:36:22,270 --> 02:36:19,120
is it that or does the senate even

3687
02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:22,280
know what the they want to know about

3688
02:36:25,910 --> 02:36:23,920
uaps

3689
02:36:28,469 --> 02:36:25,920
right is it they want to know about

3690
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:28,479
russia and what their technology is or

3691
02:36:33,670 --> 02:36:31,600
china and what their technology is

3692
02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:33,680
you know what what's your what's your

3693
02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:35,920
feeling here what is it that the senate

3694
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:37,600
intelligence committee

3695
02:36:50,070 --> 02:36:48,870
you know that one is is uh that one is

3696
02:36:52,309 --> 02:36:50,080
tough

3697
02:36:54,309 --> 02:36:52,319
for s you know a little simple-minded

3698
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:54,319
fellow like myself

3699
02:36:58,309 --> 02:36:56,160
i know that there's a lot of money that

3700
02:37:02,070 --> 02:36:58,319
exchange hands with these cats but i

3701
02:37:04,550 --> 02:37:02,080
don't jimmy i don't i don't

3702
02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:04,560
think that this is gonna go anywhere for

3703
02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:05,200
one

3704
02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:10,560
the senate intelligence committee that

3705
02:37:18,309 --> 02:37:15,439
voted to require the defense department

3706
02:37:20,950 --> 02:37:18,319
to uh completely release everything that

3707
02:37:23,590 --> 02:37:20,960
it has and knows about ufos and uaps

3708
02:37:24,870 --> 02:37:23,600
and i am almost willing to bet the

3709
02:37:29,110 --> 02:37:24,880
mortgage

3710
02:37:32,389 --> 02:37:29,120
that we don't get squad and i don't know

3711
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:32,399
why that i don't have a an opinion one

3712
02:37:36,230 --> 02:37:34,160
way or another jimmy on this one this

3713
02:37:39,670 --> 02:37:36,240
one is just one that's beyond me

3714
02:37:42,309 --> 02:37:39,680
to to pile on i just can't

3715
02:37:43,910 --> 02:37:42,319
what do you think i mean you know this

3716
02:37:45,429 --> 02:37:43,920
is host to host let me ask you the

3717
02:37:47,750 --> 02:37:45,439
question what do you think

3718
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:47,760
because i can't come up with a reason

3719
02:37:51,670 --> 02:37:48,880
why they would even

3720
02:37:52,870 --> 02:37:51,680
play that mess i don't think there is

3721
02:37:55,830 --> 02:37:52,880
one member

3722
02:37:56,389 --> 02:37:55,840
of the senate intelligence committee not

3723
02:38:02,550 --> 02:37:56,399
one

3724
02:38:05,590 --> 02:38:02,560
that thinks that

3725
02:38:09,429 --> 02:38:05,600
it has anything to do with et

3726
02:38:12,550 --> 02:38:09,439
like close encounters of the third kind

3727
02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:12,560
interstellar et

3728
02:38:17,590 --> 02:38:15,600
no no they they would not

3729
02:38:19,670 --> 02:38:17,600
put that verbiage in they they don't

3730
02:38:23,990 --> 02:38:19,680
know that no it's not part

3731
02:38:27,510 --> 02:38:24,000
what they um are passing

3732
02:38:28,230 --> 02:38:27,520
is to find out what the navy and the

3733
02:38:31,670 --> 02:38:28,240
pentagon

3734
02:38:35,590 --> 02:38:31,680
knows about advanced aircraft

3735
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:35,600
out of china israel brazil

3736
02:38:40,469 --> 02:38:38,640
germany russia any any

3737
02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:40,479
any other air force in the world has

3738
02:38:45,590 --> 02:38:42,160
nothing to do with

3739
02:38:47,830 --> 02:38:45,600
little green men that's my

3740
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:47,840
take and there isn't a senator that

3741
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:49,680
there is no way

3742
02:38:53,190 --> 02:38:51,439
i mean if you went up and questioned

3743
02:38:55,429 --> 02:38:53,200
them and said hey okay so

3744
02:38:56,469 --> 02:38:55,439
you guys want to know about uh little

3745
02:38:58,870 --> 02:38:56,479
green men and

3746
02:39:00,309 --> 02:38:58,880
ufos and what the pentagon knows they're

3747
02:39:01,349 --> 02:39:00,319
gonna look at you like you're crazy

3748
02:39:03,750 --> 02:39:01,359
because that's not

3749
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:03,760
their discussions that's not what

3750
02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:04,960
they're talking about

3751
02:39:12,790 --> 02:39:10,790
well i could probably see that you know

3752
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:12,800
it's uh

3753
02:39:16,630 --> 02:39:14,240
it's still going to be something we're

3754
02:39:19,270 --> 02:39:16,640
never going to see in the light of day

3755
02:39:21,349 --> 02:39:19,280
i don't think i honestly don't think and

3756
02:39:22,550 --> 02:39:21,359
i love their candor but i honestly don't

3757
02:39:27,110 --> 02:39:22,560
think that

3758
02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:27,120
that uh that even at the end of the day

3759
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:29,359
uh you know and you're probably right

3760
02:39:34,230 --> 02:39:31,040
jimmy let me put let me go back

3761
02:39:37,270 --> 02:39:34,240
you're probably 100 right these

3762
02:39:37,670 --> 02:39:37,280
these sort of salt of the earth folks

3763
02:39:39,670 --> 02:39:37,680
that

3764
02:39:41,830 --> 02:39:39,680
never have really you know been

3765
02:39:44,230 --> 02:39:41,840
confronted with any of this stuff

3766
02:39:45,510 --> 02:39:44,240
probably think that it's chinese

3767
02:39:49,030 --> 02:39:45,520
probably think that it's

3768
02:39:50,230 --> 02:39:49,040
it's russian and that none of this has

3769
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:50,240
anything to do

3770
02:39:57,349 --> 02:39:53,760
with off world real off-world

3771
02:40:00,630 --> 02:39:57,359
uh technology or off-world life or

3772
02:40:04,389 --> 02:40:00,640
alien life um but you know at the end of

3773
02:40:08,630 --> 02:40:07,510
it's all about money isn't it it's all

3774
02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:08,640
about the money and

3775
02:40:12,070 --> 02:40:10,800
and i i keep going but i hate to keep

3776
02:40:14,469 --> 02:40:12,080
going back to that

3777
02:40:15,349 --> 02:40:14,479
but ever you know i just keep seeing

3778
02:40:17,030 --> 02:40:15,359
these cats

3779
02:40:19,349 --> 02:40:17,040
all trying to line their pockets for

3780
02:40:22,710 --> 02:40:19,359
their own reasons and i don't

3781
02:40:26,630 --> 02:40:22,720
i don't see a

3782
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:26,640
track to jump off on to take me in any

3783
02:40:30,389 --> 02:40:27,520
other direction

3784
02:40:31,510 --> 02:40:30,399
other than that right now right now

3785
02:40:34,230 --> 02:40:31,520
they're all

3786
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:34,240
you know having senate hearings uh

3787
02:40:37,190 --> 02:40:34,880
secret

3788
02:40:38,150 --> 02:40:37,200
you know behind closed doors hearings

3789
02:40:41,030 --> 02:40:38,160
about this

3790
02:40:41,510 --> 02:40:41,040
and about the da cause look there are

3791
02:40:46,389 --> 02:40:41,520
real

3792
02:40:50,070 --> 02:40:46,399
objects of intelligent control

3793
02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:50,080
up there moving around and you know they

3794
02:40:56,309 --> 02:40:53,279
they come dangerously close

3795
02:40:59,670 --> 02:40:56,319
record after record after record

3796
02:41:02,070 --> 02:40:59,680
of them coming very very close to to uh

3797
02:41:03,030 --> 02:41:02,080
passenger airliners and military and

3798
02:41:05,429 --> 02:41:03,040
that and

3799
02:41:07,269 --> 02:41:05,439
you know if one collides with it then

3800
02:41:10,630 --> 02:41:07,279
you know what have we got

3801
02:41:13,670 --> 02:41:10,640
um and you know it just

3802
02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:13,680
really really really uh

3803
02:41:20,790 --> 02:41:17,840
harkens back to you know

3804
02:41:22,230 --> 02:41:20,800
a financial reward for those who can

3805
02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:22,240
convince

3806
02:41:28,870 --> 02:41:25,680
politicians that this needs to be done

3807
02:41:30,309 --> 02:41:28,880
and when it needs to be done you know

3808
02:41:33,750 --> 02:41:30,319
who's watching

3809
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:33,760
all kind of goes away

3810
02:41:40,309 --> 02:41:37,680
again and i i like rubio i think he's

3811
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:40,319
all right i think he can be very foolish

3812
02:41:43,349 --> 02:41:41,840
and i think that this is just one of

3813
02:41:46,150 --> 02:41:43,359
those times where he's

3814
02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:46,160
you know i think he's on the outside

3815
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:46,880
looking in

3816
02:41:54,469 --> 02:41:50,080
and he doesn't know what he's looking at

3817
02:41:58,389 --> 02:41:54,479
well my position is uh very clear

3818
02:42:01,110 --> 02:41:58,399
i want to be wrong that's it

3819
02:42:01,830 --> 02:42:01,120
race i i just want to be wrong a year

3820
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:01,840
from now

3821
02:42:10,389 --> 02:42:08,640
out there to call me out when when i'm

3822
02:42:14,469 --> 02:42:10,399
just completely proven wrong

3823
02:42:17,670 --> 02:42:14,479
and i will eat crow i have no problems

3824
02:42:20,710 --> 02:42:17,680
with wearing ttsa pajamas on the air

3825
02:42:21,429 --> 02:42:20,720
i i will do that i will do that i will

3826
02:42:23,429 --> 02:42:21,439
do that

3827
02:42:25,590 --> 02:42:23,439
i've made that commitment and and you

3828
02:42:28,950 --> 02:42:25,600
know why race

3829
02:42:30,630 --> 02:42:28,960
because that's going to be a great day

3830
02:42:33,269 --> 02:42:30,640
that's going to be a great day if i've

3831
02:42:36,309 --> 02:42:33,279
got to eat crow and i'm proven wrong

3832
02:42:37,910 --> 02:42:36,319
and a disclosure is suddenly exploding

3833
02:42:40,790 --> 02:42:37,920
out of the pentagon

3834
02:42:41,269 --> 02:42:40,800
and and the truth and the revelations

3835
02:42:45,110 --> 02:42:41,279
are

3836
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:45,120
party

3837
02:42:48,550 --> 02:42:46,960
and if i've got to be proven wrong and

3838
02:42:49,590 --> 02:42:48,560
go you know what that's going to be a

3839
02:42:53,349 --> 02:42:49,600
great day

3840
02:42:55,910 --> 02:42:53,359
so have at me i want to be wrong

3841
02:42:57,990 --> 02:42:55,920
yeah well i mean if if we're going to be

3842
02:43:00,389 --> 02:42:58,000
wrong about something that that that's a

3843
02:43:03,110 --> 02:43:00,399
good one to be wrong about but i'm

3844
02:43:04,950 --> 02:43:03,120
i'm just of the opinion that uh i'm one

3845
02:43:05,429 --> 02:43:04,960
of these ones that doesn't i don't have

3846
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:05,439
to be

3847
02:43:08,870 --> 02:43:08,399
convinced um you know all these people

3848
02:43:12,150 --> 02:43:08,880
that have

3849
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:12,160
jumped all over this retraction

3850
02:43:15,590 --> 02:43:15,120
and talent you know it's just the next

3851
02:43:18,389 --> 02:43:15,600
thing

3852
02:43:18,950 --> 02:43:18,399
man it's it's just when you've lived

3853
02:43:20,710 --> 02:43:18,960
through

3854
02:43:23,269 --> 02:43:20,720
you know two or three dozen of these

3855
02:43:26,950 --> 02:43:23,279
things in this subject

3856
02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:26,960
you know the conversation's getting real

3857
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:30,319
thin out here the air is getting

3858
02:43:37,510 --> 02:43:33,520
real thin out here and

3859
02:43:39,910 --> 02:43:37,520
i'm still waiting i'm waiting on

3860
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:39,920
whatever the next big thing is that's

3861
02:43:42,070 --> 02:43:41,680
going to happen it's going to drop and

3862
02:43:43,750 --> 02:43:42,080
it's

3863
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:43,760
really going to suck the air right out

3864
02:43:50,070 --> 02:43:46,800
of the room so

3865
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:50,080
everybody should um i think you know

3866
02:43:54,389 --> 02:43:52,720
this this pandemic and and you know and

3867
02:43:57,670 --> 02:43:54,399
the election

3868
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:57,680
uh let's let's ride this out and see

3869
02:44:02,150 --> 02:43:59,040
this through

3870
02:44:04,950 --> 02:44:02,160
get it behind us and then we can uh

3871
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:04,960
we can look for the next big whatever

3872
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:06,479
because it's going to be coming it's

3873
02:44:10,950 --> 02:44:07,600
going to be due

3874
02:44:15,110 --> 02:44:10,960
2017 dude was three years ago

3875
02:44:17,830 --> 02:44:15,120
and it was a jaw-dropping moment for a

3876
02:44:18,630 --> 02:44:17,840
lot of people this subject was on tucker

3877
02:44:21,910 --> 02:44:18,640
carlson on

3878
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:21,920
cnn you know i mean like major

3879
02:44:27,349 --> 02:44:24,960
network news and um you know

3880
02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:27,359
for the huge lack of respect that i've

3881
02:44:31,190 --> 02:44:28,640
had for

3882
02:44:32,230 --> 02:44:31,200
all the major networks for a long time

3883
02:44:35,590 --> 02:44:32,240
now they're

3884
02:44:36,790 --> 02:44:35,600
truly not news networks not fox not cnn

3885
02:44:39,830 --> 02:44:36,800
not msnbc

3886
02:44:40,389 --> 02:44:39,840
they're not real news they're opinion

3887
02:44:42,630 --> 02:44:40,399
pieces

3888
02:44:44,469 --> 02:44:42,640
all the time it's just digging up

3889
02:44:46,550 --> 02:44:44,479
fossils from wherever and throwing them

3890
02:44:48,870 --> 02:44:46,560
on tv to spit their party line or

3891
02:44:51,110 --> 02:44:48,880
whatever they're all politically

3892
02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:51,120
driven now and it's just ridiculous i

3893
02:44:54,469 --> 02:44:52,800
thought it would go away after the last

3894
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:54,479
election i thought this is all because

3895
02:44:57,269 --> 02:44:54,960
they like

3896
02:44:59,110 --> 02:44:57,279
now they just kept right on riding with

3897
02:45:00,550 --> 02:44:59,120
it all the way through till now

3898
02:45:02,309 --> 02:45:00,560
and i think that that's what's going to

3899
02:45:05,429 --> 02:45:02,319
happen with this subject

3900
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:05,439
it's going to come and be a part of the

3901
02:45:10,230 --> 02:45:06,800
conversation

3902
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:10,240
all the time in the mainstream which

3903
02:45:15,429 --> 02:45:13,600
you know it takes me back to

3904
02:45:17,349 --> 02:45:15,439
you know the days where all of our

3905
02:45:20,950 --> 02:45:17,359
conversations

3906
02:45:24,389 --> 02:45:20,960
centered around you know this this truth

3907
02:45:26,550 --> 02:45:24,399
is too big for to be to honestly be

3908
02:45:29,830 --> 02:45:26,560
believed by everybody

3909
02:45:30,790 --> 02:45:29,840
um so the lie is going to perpetuate

3910
02:45:32,790 --> 02:45:30,800
itself

3911
02:45:33,990 --> 02:45:32,800
and the truth is going to be wrapped up

3912
02:45:36,550 --> 02:45:34,000
in it and

3913
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:36,560
and and when we're all talking about it

3914
02:45:40,630 --> 02:45:38,080
like it's real and

3915
02:45:42,950 --> 02:45:40,640
no one's going to care if we actually

3916
02:45:45,590 --> 02:45:42,960
see one we're all just gonna say

3917
02:45:46,389 --> 02:45:45,600
we know it's real and that's good enough

3918
02:45:49,670 --> 02:45:46,399
and

3919
02:45:51,510 --> 02:45:49,680
you know that'll probably be like

3920
02:45:53,590 --> 02:45:51,520
you know the chocolate on the pillow for

3921
02:45:56,630 --> 02:45:53,600
us yeah we're already at that point

3922
02:46:00,389 --> 02:45:58,469
yeah i think it's been very effective i

3923
02:46:01,750 --> 02:46:00,399
mean i've got i've got friends and

3924
02:46:03,429 --> 02:46:01,760
family out there that are

3925
02:46:05,030 --> 02:46:03,439
have nothing to do with the ufo

3926
02:46:07,190 --> 02:46:05,040
community or subject or

3927
02:46:08,309 --> 02:46:07,200
or anything like that but when this

3928
02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:08,319
subject comes up

3929
02:46:13,269 --> 02:46:11,200
and they see it on on the news the

3930
02:46:14,150 --> 02:46:13,279
response is i mean of course we're not

3931
02:46:16,230 --> 02:46:14,160
alone

3932
02:46:17,269 --> 02:46:16,240
what do you think look how big the

3933
02:46:20,870 --> 02:46:17,279
universe is

3934
02:46:23,990 --> 02:46:20,880
of course we're not alone where

3935
02:46:26,630 --> 02:46:24,000
it has been effective certainly

3936
02:46:27,349 --> 02:46:26,640
um now let me ask you this i've never

3937
02:46:30,550 --> 02:46:27,359
asked

3938
02:46:34,710 --> 02:46:30,560
you this question ever

3939
02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:34,720
what is the case for you what is the

3940
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:38,080
one ufo event that

3941
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:40,880
you carry with you what's the what's the

3942
02:46:45,830 --> 02:46:42,479
one

3943
02:46:50,230 --> 02:46:45,840
the travis walton case yeah me too

3944
02:46:54,389 --> 02:46:50,240
that's it yeah november 1974

3945
02:46:56,630 --> 02:46:54,399
seven guys of uh you know

3946
02:46:57,910 --> 02:46:56,640
that some of them loved each other

3947
02:46:59,349 --> 02:46:57,920
dearly and some of them

3948
02:47:02,309 --> 02:46:59,359
you know couldn't care less for the

3949
02:47:06,070 --> 02:47:02,319
others uh all different ages

3950
02:47:08,230 --> 02:47:06,080
um they all saw something

3951
02:47:09,349 --> 02:47:08,240
and they were all witness to an event

3952
02:47:13,269 --> 02:47:09,359
and um

3953
02:47:17,190 --> 02:47:13,279
they've all kept the same story for

3954
02:47:20,230 --> 02:47:17,200
over 40 years or something

3955
02:47:23,269 --> 02:47:20,240
uh that can't happen

3956
02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:23,279
that just that you know that there's

3957
02:47:29,670 --> 02:47:26,560
the the the lie detector tests

3958
02:47:30,389 --> 02:47:29,680
what travis says doesn't matter it's

3959
02:47:34,790 --> 02:47:30,399
what they've

3960
02:47:37,030 --> 02:47:34,800
all said uh it's what it's how

3961
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:37,040
they've all said it even stephen pierce

3962
02:47:42,870 --> 02:47:39,120
the youngest one involved

3963
02:47:45,910 --> 02:47:42,880
um you know this guy was uh

3964
02:47:48,630 --> 02:47:45,920
a trucker admittedly had a drug problem

3965
02:47:49,910 --> 02:47:48,640
at times in his life very poor broke at

3966
02:47:52,870 --> 02:47:49,920
times in his life

3967
02:47:54,550 --> 02:47:52,880
down on his luck at times life had been

3968
02:47:55,910 --> 02:47:54,560
offered thousands and thousands of

3969
02:47:58,150 --> 02:47:55,920
dollars to come

3970
02:48:00,070 --> 02:47:58,160
forward and say this didn't happen he

3971
02:48:02,150 --> 02:48:00,080
admitted that he considered it and

3972
02:48:03,990 --> 02:48:02,160
wanted to take the money and almost did

3973
02:48:05,750 --> 02:48:04,000
take the money to have his girlfriend

3974
02:48:09,349 --> 02:48:05,760
talk him out of it

3975
02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:09,359
um you know just for morality's sake

3976
02:48:12,630 --> 02:48:11,040
you know you don't want to live the rest

3977
02:48:14,830 --> 02:48:12,640
of your life looking over your shoulder

3978
02:48:17,429 --> 02:48:14,840
because you lied

3979
02:48:20,230 --> 02:48:17,439
um you know they've

3980
02:48:22,230 --> 02:48:20,240
all maintained that this really happened

3981
02:48:25,349 --> 02:48:22,240
the way that it happened

3982
02:48:26,790 --> 02:48:25,359
and um and i just don't think that that

3983
02:48:30,710 --> 02:48:26,800
part

3984
02:48:33,750 --> 02:48:30,720
of human experience can be faked

3985
02:48:38,070 --> 02:48:33,760
it just can't it can't when

3986
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:38,080
when you know you've got seven people

3987
02:48:42,230 --> 02:48:39,840
some of them that don't even like each

3988
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:42,240
other with nothing to lose and they

3989
02:48:45,830 --> 02:48:43,680
still won't come out and say

3990
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:45,840
they faked it or it was a lie or was all

3991
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:47,279
a setup

3992
02:48:52,710 --> 02:48:50,560
i just can't find my way to believe

3993
02:48:56,070 --> 02:48:52,720
anything other than

3994
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:56,080
what happened happened

3995
02:49:03,349 --> 02:48:59,760
and uh you know what what travis says

3996
02:49:06,070 --> 02:49:03,359
happened on the ship um and all of that

3997
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:06,080
is all on his own it has nothing to do

3998
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:07,359
with the rest of them

3999
02:49:11,349 --> 02:49:10,240
they were at home facing uh murder

4000
02:49:12,950 --> 02:49:11,359
indictments

4001
02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:12,960
because in arizona you didn't have to

4002
02:49:18,710 --> 02:49:16,000
have a body to go to prison for murder

4003
02:49:19,670 --> 02:49:18,720
and so these guys were up against it man

4004
02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:19,680
big time

4005
02:49:23,750 --> 02:49:22,160
and they all stuck together from there

4006
02:49:26,389 --> 02:49:23,760
to this very day

4007
02:49:27,670 --> 02:49:26,399
so that's my case that's my case and i

4008
02:49:30,469 --> 02:49:27,680
do thank

4009
02:49:32,790 --> 02:49:30,479
travis walton for respectively

4010
02:49:35,190 --> 02:49:32,800
representing that case

4011
02:49:35,830 --> 02:49:35,200
um the best way he could all these years

4012
02:49:41,429 --> 02:49:35,840
and

4013
02:49:43,269 --> 02:49:41,439
what happened all these years because he

4014
02:49:46,230 --> 02:49:43,279
didn't have to do it

4015
02:49:49,030 --> 02:49:46,240
and mike rogers the crew boss you know

4016
02:49:50,790 --> 02:49:49,040
he does his show on kgra the realist

4017
02:49:52,309 --> 02:49:50,800
and i've talked with him at length about

4018
02:49:55,750 --> 02:49:52,319
the case

4019
02:49:59,510 --> 02:49:55,760
and um you know he says it happened

4020
02:50:02,950 --> 02:49:59,520
exactly the way that he's always said

4021
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:02,960
and the way that travis said and um

4022
02:50:08,870 --> 02:50:06,960
those two accounts the one of the guy

4023
02:50:10,389 --> 02:50:08,880
who got took and the one the guy that

4024
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:10,399
was left behind

4025
02:50:16,870 --> 02:50:13,760
um it's just so powerful

4026
02:50:19,030 --> 02:50:16,880
i went and watched uh a couple of weeks

4027
02:50:23,030 --> 02:50:19,040
ago for like the fifth time

4028
02:50:25,670 --> 02:50:23,040
uh travis write the new documentary

4029
02:50:28,230 --> 02:50:25,680
and what is so great about that

4030
02:50:31,750 --> 02:50:28,240
documentary i know that you have seen it

4031
02:50:34,150 --> 02:50:31,760
but these are the are you talking about

4032
02:50:35,269 --> 02:50:34,160
jennifer stein yeah jennifer's time man

4033
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:35,279
and uh

4034
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:37,439
and and you go and you watch that and

4035
02:50:43,510 --> 02:50:39,600
and hats off to jennifer

4036
02:50:46,230 --> 02:50:43,520
i mean i've i've congratulated her

4037
02:50:46,790 --> 02:50:46,240
i'm pulling that off so many times but

4038
02:50:49,269 --> 02:50:46,800
to get

4039
02:50:50,389 --> 02:50:49,279
everybody in a modern context today

4040
02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:50,399
finally together

4041
02:50:56,790 --> 02:50:53,920
to to discuss all of this and you just

4042
02:50:59,030 --> 02:50:56,800
you watch that documentary just watch it

4043
02:51:02,830 --> 02:50:59,040
because it's exactly what you are saying

4044
02:51:04,150 --> 02:51:02,840
race these guys these guys just have an

4045
02:51:06,630 --> 02:51:04,160
experience

4046
02:51:08,870 --> 02:51:06,640
right that's it that's it and they are

4047
02:51:09,830 --> 02:51:08,880
are telling everybody exactly how it

4048
02:51:11,670 --> 02:51:09,840
happened

4049
02:51:13,110 --> 02:51:11,680
buy it if you want it buy it if you

4050
02:51:15,830 --> 02:51:13,120
don't it doesn't matter

4051
02:51:17,510 --> 02:51:15,840
it doesn't change our story and and this

4052
02:51:18,790 --> 02:51:17,520
is the way it went down so i'm with you

4053
02:51:21,429 --> 02:51:18,800
i think travis

4054
02:51:23,030 --> 02:51:21,439
uh is at the top of the list for me and

4055
02:51:25,190 --> 02:51:23,040
number two

4056
02:51:26,230 --> 02:51:25,200
uh i keep going back to and i think

4057
02:51:29,110 --> 02:51:26,240
about this and there

4058
02:51:29,750 --> 02:51:29,120
i'll i'll tell you why i'm going randall

4059
02:51:32,710 --> 02:51:29,760
shim

4060
02:51:33,030 --> 02:51:32,720
as my number two and and the reason for

4061
02:51:36,950 --> 02:51:33,040
that

4062
02:51:39,349 --> 02:51:36,960
is it's the same reasons uh for travis

4063
02:51:40,630 --> 02:51:39,359
we have a group of guys that are still

4064
02:51:43,349 --> 02:51:40,640
with us

4065
02:51:44,950 --> 02:51:43,359
they can talk about it right this isn't

4066
02:51:48,070 --> 02:51:44,960
roswell

4067
02:51:50,230 --> 02:51:48,080
right this isn't the texas flying

4068
02:51:53,590 --> 02:51:50,240
machine of 1890

4069
02:51:55,830 --> 02:51:53,600
right this is this is a modern event

4070
02:51:56,950 --> 02:51:55,840
where all of the witnesses are still

4071
02:51:58,870 --> 02:51:56,960
here with

4072
02:52:00,389 --> 02:51:58,880
with documentation and everything else

4073
02:52:03,349 --> 02:52:00,399
we got the audio tapes and

4074
02:52:04,070 --> 02:52:03,359
and things out of randall shim and these

4075
02:52:10,309 --> 02:52:04,080
are

4076
02:52:12,790 --> 02:52:10,319
is is my number one randall shim number

4077
02:52:15,590 --> 02:52:12,800
two what do you think

4078
02:52:16,309 --> 02:52:15,600
uh my number two is pascagoula yeah i

4079
02:52:19,510 --> 02:52:16,319
know i know

4080
02:52:22,309 --> 02:52:19,520
i know but but you you're right about

4081
02:52:26,630 --> 02:52:22,319
the rendelsome case a hundred percent

4082
02:52:28,710 --> 02:52:26,640
um they're one of the guys

4083
02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:28,720
john burroughs a very dear brother and

4084
02:52:32,870 --> 02:52:29,840
friend to me

4085
02:52:36,150 --> 02:52:32,880
is probably one of my biggest confidants

4086
02:52:40,150 --> 02:52:36,160
in in the subject of ufos because

4087
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:40,160
this is the guy that has never diverted

4088
02:52:44,469 --> 02:52:42,640
from the rendelstrom case he's always

4089
02:52:44,950 --> 02:52:44,479
admittedly wanted to know what happened

4090
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:44,960
to him

4091
02:52:50,710 --> 02:52:48,399
and his uh his his fellow airmen

4092
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:50,720
and um and what happened to them and

4093
02:52:55,349 --> 02:52:52,080
happened to him

4094
02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:55,359
he's never sensationalized the case he's

4095
02:52:58,389 --> 02:52:56,080
never gone

4096
02:52:59,510 --> 02:52:58,399
off and done this or that way or this or

4097
02:53:02,309 --> 02:52:59,520
that way you know

4098
02:53:02,710 --> 02:53:02,319
it's always been you know a matter of

4099
02:53:04,870 --> 02:53:02,720
fact

4100
02:53:06,630 --> 02:53:04,880
i think he's one of the only ones that's

4101
02:53:09,030 --> 02:53:06,640
never changed his story

4102
02:53:10,710 --> 02:53:09,040
jim peniston's been caught lying colonel

4103
02:53:13,510 --> 02:53:10,720
halt's been caught lying

4104
02:53:14,950 --> 02:53:13,520
you know of course larry warren that guy

4105
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:14,960
just completely tanked

4106
02:53:21,910 --> 02:53:18,000
and been a liar um but

4107
02:53:25,030 --> 02:53:21,920
you know john burroughs adrian bestenza

4108
02:53:25,910 --> 02:53:25,040
cabanza these these guys have all stuck

4109
02:53:28,630 --> 02:53:25,920
to their story

4110
02:53:29,990 --> 02:53:28,640
all said it the same they've all been

4111
02:53:32,950 --> 02:53:30,000
very consistent

4112
02:53:33,429 --> 02:53:32,960
uh code name cookie we call her cookie

4113
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:33,439
um

4114
02:53:40,469 --> 02:53:38,720
i don't want to to to put her name out

4115
02:53:42,790 --> 02:53:40,479
there but she was on with us

4116
02:53:44,389 --> 02:53:42,800
uh linda and john and phenomenon radio

4117
02:53:47,990 --> 02:53:44,399
and what a compelling

4118
02:53:51,030 --> 02:53:48,000
uh aspect she added to the whole thing

4119
02:53:53,750 --> 02:53:51,040
but um you know what

4120
02:53:55,429 --> 02:53:53,760
you know aside from some of the

4121
02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:55,439
contradictions and some of the

4122
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:57,760
statements that have been changed

4123
02:54:01,590 --> 02:53:59,920
uh things that shouldn't have been said

4124
02:54:03,269 --> 02:54:01,600
you know for whatever reason colonel

4125
02:54:06,630 --> 02:54:03,279
halt didn't tell the truth

4126
02:54:09,429 --> 02:54:06,640
about john being there then we heard him

4127
02:54:11,110 --> 02:54:09,439
on his tape you know then he had to

4128
02:54:13,670 --> 02:54:11,120
admit well yes he was

4129
02:54:15,830 --> 02:54:13,680
and then several other things since then

4130
02:54:19,110 --> 02:54:15,840
for whatever reason i think he had

4131
02:54:20,070 --> 02:54:19,120
a reason to try to i think he was trying

4132
02:54:22,389 --> 02:54:20,080
to protect his

4133
02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:22,399
his guys you know i think he's had

4134
02:54:25,030 --> 02:54:24,080
reasons for why he's doing what he's

4135
02:54:28,230 --> 02:54:25,040
doing

4136
02:54:29,349 --> 02:54:28,240
um i i think that that colonel halt's a

4137
02:54:31,910 --> 02:54:29,359
good man

4138
02:54:32,550 --> 02:54:31,920
i don't and i think that jim peniston's

4139
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:32,560
a good man

4140
02:54:38,469 --> 02:54:36,160
but i just don't i just don't you know

4141
02:54:39,190 --> 02:54:38,479
it may be just what colonel halt said

4142
02:54:41,269 --> 02:54:39,200
that they're

4143
02:54:42,710 --> 02:54:41,279
they were messed with with drugs and

4144
02:54:46,070 --> 02:54:42,720
interrogation

4145
02:54:48,550 --> 02:54:46,080
and uh and colonel halt knows about that

4146
02:54:50,309 --> 02:54:48,560
he you know he dealt with it in vietnam

4147
02:54:51,830 --> 02:54:50,319
and he was a combat controller in

4148
02:54:54,309 --> 02:54:51,840
vietnam and he

4149
02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:54,319
you know he knows about that stuff so he

4150
02:54:56,870 --> 02:54:56,319
very much well may have been telling us

4151
02:54:59,830 --> 02:54:56,880
all

4152
02:55:00,790 --> 02:54:59,840
then the truth about that and even with

4153
02:55:04,150 --> 02:55:00,800
john

4154
02:55:06,469 --> 02:55:04,160
but um i think the reynoldson case is

4155
02:55:09,670 --> 02:55:06,479
exactly what you said it was jimmy

4156
02:55:10,550 --> 02:55:09,680
they're here they're this is not uh this

4157
02:55:13,030 --> 02:55:10,560
is not a

4158
02:55:15,190 --> 02:55:13,040
you know an old case where you know

4159
02:55:15,990 --> 02:55:15,200
everyone the roswell case everybody's

4160
02:55:18,389 --> 02:55:16,000
come and gone

4161
02:55:20,230 --> 02:55:18,399
and you know like stanton said about it

4162
02:55:21,670 --> 02:55:20,240
it's a race with the undertaker you know

4163
02:55:23,830 --> 02:55:21,680
to try to find these people

4164
02:55:24,870 --> 02:55:23,840
right um they're all here and they're

4165
02:55:27,990 --> 02:55:24,880
all now and it's a

4166
02:55:29,590 --> 02:55:28,000
damn shame that all of those guys

4167
02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:29,600
i wish colonel halt being their

4168
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:31,520
commander uh

4169
02:55:34,950 --> 02:55:33,760
back then and their their leader would

4170
02:55:37,670 --> 02:55:34,960
get them all together

4171
02:55:38,790 --> 02:55:37,680
and get on the record with it in a hurry

4172
02:55:42,230 --> 02:55:38,800
because

4173
02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:42,240
same thing

4174
02:55:49,269 --> 02:55:46,399
pascagoula because

4175
02:55:49,830 --> 02:55:49,279
calvin uh coming on this program and

4176
02:55:52,550 --> 02:55:49,840
some of the

4177
02:55:53,510 --> 02:55:52,560
other programs that he has has been on

4178
02:55:56,790 --> 02:55:53,520
recently

4179
02:56:00,630 --> 02:55:56,800
he's still with us and that is

4180
02:56:03,349 --> 02:56:00,640
to hear him uh again he's never

4181
02:56:04,550 --> 02:56:03,359
shifted from his story but it's it's the

4182
02:56:07,750 --> 02:56:04,560
way that he tells

4183
02:56:09,510 --> 02:56:07,760
about his experience and and i believe

4184
02:56:10,630 --> 02:56:09,520
that that is concrete and then of course

4185
02:56:12,710 --> 02:56:10,640
we have

4186
02:56:14,230 --> 02:56:12,720
uh i guess if we're gonna round this out

4187
02:56:16,630 --> 02:56:14,240
i gotta go uh

4188
02:56:17,750 --> 02:56:16,640
i gotta go with lonnie lonnie zamora

4189
02:56:21,030 --> 02:56:17,760
socorro

4190
02:56:23,910 --> 02:56:21,040
that's a that's a pretty strong case too

4191
02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:23,920
what do you think about chris bledsoe's

4192
02:56:28,630 --> 02:56:25,439
case in north carolina

4193
02:56:29,510 --> 02:56:28,640
i think chris bledsoe is just like the

4194
02:56:33,190 --> 02:56:29,520
rest of us

4195
02:56:34,550 --> 02:56:33,200
right now chris bledsoe is experiencing

4196
02:56:36,790 --> 02:56:34,560
the same thing

4197
02:56:38,150 --> 02:56:36,800
that i have been experiencing and others

4198
02:56:41,190 --> 02:56:38,160
when we go out

4199
02:56:43,990 --> 02:56:41,200
and and uh do sky watches

4200
02:56:44,469 --> 02:56:44,000
and and we are able to see things chris

4201
02:56:50,230 --> 02:56:44,479
is

4202
02:56:52,950 --> 02:56:50,240
level

4203
02:56:54,870 --> 02:56:52,960
certainly for sure but i think chris

4204
02:56:58,070 --> 02:56:54,880
bledsoe represents

4205
02:56:58,550 --> 02:56:58,080
a huge part of this ufo community right

4206
02:57:01,830 --> 02:56:58,560
now

4207
02:57:02,469 --> 02:57:01,840
when i interview chris i feel like i'm

4208
02:57:05,510 --> 02:57:02,479
just

4209
02:57:07,910 --> 02:57:05,520
like interviewing myself because

4210
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:07,920
we have you know i've gone out uh race

4211
02:57:10,950 --> 02:57:09,279
you've heard me talk about this so many

4212
02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:10,960
times but i've gone out with

4213
02:57:14,150 --> 02:57:13,120
you know dozens if not hundreds of

4214
02:57:16,710 --> 02:57:14,160
people and have

4215
02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:16,720
seen the most incredible things that we

4216
02:57:21,110 --> 02:57:18,399
cannot explain

4217
02:57:22,870 --> 02:57:21,120
and and chris is out there experiencing

4218
02:57:26,630 --> 02:57:22,880
this stuff in his backyard

4219
02:57:28,790 --> 02:57:26,640
direct contact and uh and his son

4220
02:57:29,670 --> 02:57:28,800
and family neighbor right everybody's

4221
02:57:32,790 --> 02:57:29,680
involved with this

4222
02:57:34,150 --> 02:57:32,800
and that's what i think uh uh is is

4223
02:57:36,150 --> 02:57:34,160
going on with chris i think he

4224
02:57:39,349 --> 02:57:36,160
represents all of us right now

4225
02:57:42,550 --> 02:57:39,359
and uh it's exciting for him uh

4226
02:57:44,870 --> 02:57:42,560
exciting for us to hear him recount

4227
02:57:47,830 --> 02:57:44,880
uh what what he is witnessing and

4228
02:57:50,710 --> 02:57:47,840
continues to experience out there

4229
02:57:51,110 --> 02:57:50,720
yeah it's it's it's very interesting and

4230
02:57:54,070 --> 02:57:51,120
uh

4231
02:57:54,710 --> 02:57:54,080
some of my good friends investigated his

4232
02:57:58,309 --> 02:57:54,720
case

4233
02:58:00,790 --> 02:57:58,319
uh you know very very thoroughly

4234
02:58:03,110 --> 02:58:00,800
and uh you know of course i did as well

4235
02:58:03,990 --> 02:58:03,120
i i sat down with chris and talked with

4236
02:58:06,469 --> 02:58:04,000
him

4237
02:58:07,030 --> 02:58:06,479
on the phone on interviews and off the

4238
02:58:10,150 --> 02:58:07,040
uh

4239
02:58:12,230 --> 02:58:10,160
and off the air as well and um

4240
02:58:13,910 --> 02:58:12,240
you know there were things that he said

4241
02:58:16,870 --> 02:58:13,920
in the beginning and then there were

4242
02:58:17,750 --> 02:58:16,880
things that he said and divulged much

4243
02:58:20,150 --> 02:58:17,760
later

4244
02:58:22,150 --> 02:58:20,160
because he was having marital problems

4245
02:58:24,550 --> 02:58:22,160
he was having mental issues and

4246
02:58:26,950 --> 02:58:24,560
trying to hold it all together and i

4247
02:58:27,990 --> 02:58:26,960
couldn't figure out why that was based

4248
02:58:31,830 --> 02:58:28,000
on what was

4249
02:58:34,309 --> 02:58:31,840
in the initial story but when he tells

4250
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:34,319
you the additional parts that you didn't

4251
02:58:38,230 --> 02:58:35,920
know about in the beginning

4252
02:58:39,190 --> 02:58:38,240
then it all starts to kind of come into

4253
02:58:41,110 --> 02:58:39,200
focus

4254
02:58:42,469 --> 02:58:41,120
and i love chris bledsoe with all my

4255
02:58:44,230 --> 02:58:42,479
heart and i truly

4256
02:58:45,750 --> 02:58:44,240
pray that he finds the answers he's

4257
02:58:49,750 --> 02:58:45,760
looking for because

4258
02:58:52,309 --> 02:58:49,760
i think that he has been experiencing

4259
02:58:53,670 --> 02:58:52,319
uh you know some truly bizarre things

4260
02:58:57,030 --> 02:58:53,680
that can be

4261
02:59:00,230 --> 02:58:57,040
you know they can be uh soul-shaking

4262
02:59:02,870 --> 02:59:00,240
yeah and uh to put it lightly but

4263
02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:02,880
i tell you calvin parker is an authentic

4264
02:59:07,190 --> 02:59:04,000
gentleman

4265
02:59:09,110 --> 02:59:07,200
and he's got a lot of other information

4266
02:59:10,309 --> 02:59:09,120
that has come to light over the years to

4267
02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:10,319
back up his claim

4268
02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:11,600
that's right there were other people

4269
02:59:14,469 --> 02:59:13,279
that witnessed this stuff from across

4270
02:59:17,750 --> 02:59:14,479
the river and around

4271
02:59:20,870 --> 02:59:17,760
so it's an authentic case and

4272
02:59:23,269 --> 02:59:20,880
um and i think he's a very authentic

4273
02:59:24,469 --> 02:59:23,279
witness and experiencer and i'm thankful

4274
02:59:29,030 --> 02:59:24,479
for him coming forward

4275
02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:29,040
he's a down dude man he is cool

4276
02:59:32,950 --> 02:59:31,120
yeah absolutely race hobbes you're the

4277
02:59:35,269 --> 02:59:32,960
best man thank you so much

4278
02:59:36,630 --> 02:59:35,279
pull the pole tonight you got your feet

4279
02:59:39,750 --> 02:59:36,640
wet again

4280
02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:39,760
i really appreciate it it's it's a

4281
02:59:43,110 --> 02:59:41,600
lot of fun and it's always a pleasure to

4282
02:59:44,150 --> 02:59:43,120
be on your show jimmy you're the

4283
02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:44,160
greatest

4284
02:59:48,790 --> 02:59:46,720
racehobbs i didn't even get a chance to

4285
02:59:50,950 --> 02:59:48,800
say what's new over at kgre you know

4286
02:59:53,190 --> 02:59:50,960
what everybody go to kgra.com

4287
02:59:55,349 --> 02:59:53,200
everything you need is right there race

4288
02:59:56,630 --> 02:59:55,359
hobbs continue rolling that rock uphill

4289
02:59:59,670 --> 02:59:56,640
thank you so much

4290
03:00:01,510 --> 02:59:59,680
you got it brother you do the same race

4291
03:00:02,630 --> 03:00:01,520
hobbs we didn't even talk about cracker

4292
03:00:04,630 --> 03:00:02,640
barrel tonight

4293
03:00:06,070 --> 03:00:04,640
can you believe it fade to black's

4294
03:00:09,190 --> 03:00:06,080
executive producer

4295
03:00:09,429 --> 03:00:09,200
is rita kamurian shows produced by hill

4296
03:00:11,750 --> 03:00:09,439
j

4297
03:00:13,910 --> 03:00:11,760
palm renee dennis and kevin announcers

4298
03:00:16,630 --> 03:00:13,920
are steve harder gene vettel and mark d

4299
03:00:20,830 --> 03:00:16,640
kovar webmaster is drew the geek

4300
03:00:23,429 --> 03:00:20,840
music doug aldridge intro spaceboy

4301
03:00:25,510 --> 03:00:23,439
spaceboymusic.com beta black is produced

4302
03:00:27,910 --> 03:00:25,520
by kjcr for the game changer network and

4303
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:27,920
syndication is kgra

4304
03:00:32,150 --> 03:00:30,080
the planet this broadcast owned

4305
03:00:33,349 --> 03:00:32,160
copyrighted 2020 by fade to black in the

4306
03:00:35,190 --> 03:00:33,359
game changer network

4307
03:00:37,030 --> 03:00:35,200
inc that cannot be re-broadcast

4308
03:00:38,070 --> 03:00:37,040
downloaded copied or used anywhere in

4309
03:00:39,750 --> 03:00:38,080
the known universe

4310
03:00:41,830 --> 03:00:39,760
without written permission from fade to

4311
03:00:43,590 --> 03:00:41,840
block of the game changer network

4312
03:00:46,230 --> 03:00:43,600
army knows jimmy church tomorrow night

4313
03:00:50,070 --> 03:00:46,240
right here dr christopher macklin